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Jerry From LA
Jerry From LA SuperDork
5/23/18 6:26 p.m.

We accept moving under its own power.  The rest is gravy.

JoeTR6
JoeTR6 Dork
5/24/18 6:51 a.m.
Jerry From LA said:

We accept moving under its own power.  The rest is gravy.

There should be some kind of award.  Maybe a golden wrench or something.

Ian F
Ian F MegaDork
5/24/18 6:56 a.m.

In reply to JoeTR6 :

I say it deserves a mention in the magazine. 

AxeHealey
AxeHealey Reader
5/24/18 7:22 a.m.

Sweet! Nice work.

USERNAMETAKEN
USERNAMETAKEN Reader
5/24/18 7:29 a.m.

Pretty awesome.  Sounds terrific!

On your body work, did you have to do any reenforcement of the shell?  You mentioned stress cracks.

Also, the Slick Sand looks like the way to go.  Does that spray with just a regular spray gun or do you need one made for thicker liquids?

NOHOME
NOHOME UltimaDork
5/24/18 8:26 a.m.

In reply to USERNAMETAKEN :

Buy a cheap gun with a large orifice. You need the big origice or else it goes on like ceiling pop-corn stucco. And Durablocks, get a set of those.

Slick sand may or may not be an exact equivalent to Feather-fil. But they occupy the same functional niche.

As a rule, you do not shoot the high fill poly primers on to bare metal. Royal Pain in the Butt as you need to keep epoxy priming the inevitable sand -throughs to bare metal. Cant use the spray can etch primers with poly.

Evercoat sells a Direct to Metal version of their poly primer that will make life easier. Called 4:1. Actuallly builds higher film than the G2 version.

 

Lots of feather fill and slick sand vids on youTube

Dust, has anyone mentioned dust yet?

 

Pete

RoddyMac17
RoddyMac17 Reader
5/24/18 11:27 a.m.
USERNAMETAKEN said:

Pretty awesome.  Sounds terrific!

On your body work, did you have to do any reenforcement of the shell?  You mentioned stress cracks.

Also, the Slick Sand looks like the way to go.  Does that spray with just a regular spray gun or do you need one made for thicker liquids?

I didn't do much reinforcement, mostly just glassing up cracks from the backside (most of the cracks were caused by PO's moving the body while it was off the frame).  Spider/star cracks were repaired with tissue.  The only area I did build up was the floors as they were 1/8" thick and had multiple holes and repairs.  I added two layers of chopped strand mat to each side which has stiffened them up a bit (but did add weight).  

As for spraying Slick Sand (or any other sprayable Poly filler), I can't really comment as I've yet to try my hand at it.  The guys who painted the car said they rolled it on as it would be a lot more work to mask everything and spray (they were only working on localized areas).  If I were to do it again I would take NOHOME's advice and get a gun with a large orifice to spray it.

RoddyMac17
RoddyMac17 Reader
8/7/18 12:20 p.m.

Not much to post in regards to things beeing done on the Europa.  I have a small list of things still to do before it's ready to drive on the road, but.... this happened over the weekend:

 

It's an Elan S4 that's been apart for some time now.  The body has been painted Guards Red on the rear half and some other red on the front half.  One of the previous owners stripped it, started on the resto and got as far as painting it the two shades to see which he preferred, then from what I recall, unfortunately succumbed to the dreaded C word.  Everything other than the rolling chassis is in pieces, but luckily most, if not everything came with the car.  I'm eager to get the motor back together this fall and hopefully have a running chassis by the spring.

The one neat thing about it is, it's only a month or two older than the Europa, both being built in 1968.

 

Pete Gossett
Pete Gossett MegaDork
8/7/18 12:32 p.m.

In reply to RoddyMac17 :

Wow! You need a white Esprit to park next to them(and a bigger garage)!!!

SkinnyG
SkinnyG SuperDork
8/7/18 2:12 p.m.

Any chance you could get the 7 back?  You NEED the Holy Trinity of Lotus in your garage!

RoddyMac17
RoddyMac17 Reader
8/28/18 9:06 a.m.

SkinnyG,

I think if I wanted the trifecta, I would build a better Seven.  The first one was ok, but if I were to end up with it again I would most likely tear it apart.

 

In other news, I've been chasing a oil leak for months now and I finally cured it.  I thought it was the remote filter adapter at the block, so I replaced it.  It still leaked, so off came the carbs again and the threaded boss for the oil filter was shortened as I had thought the o-ring didnt have enough squish (the adapter was bottoming out on the threads).  Everything was reinstalled, and lo and behold, oil was still leaking.  So, next test was checking the hoses, one was removed and swapped end for end, still leaking.  The other hose was then swapped end for end and.... the swivel fitting was leaking.  Luckily the hoses were a bit too long and that they used push-on fittings.  NPT to SAE adapters were ordered along with SAE Female push-on fittings and I now have no oil leaks.  Unfortunately there are still some other things to sort before inspection, but I now have a leak free and very noisy car.  

https://youtu.be/pgou0w2q9rw

FunkyCricket
FunkyCricket New Reader
8/28/18 3:39 p.m.

those rear springs are SOFT. Did you ever get them replaced? I don't recall seeing it.

RoddyMac17
RoddyMac17 Reader
8/28/18 3:56 p.m.
FunkyCricket said:

those rear springs are SOFT. Did you ever get them replaced? I don't recall seeing it.

Are you talking about the red springs that were on it as a rolling chassis?  Or the black one on it now?  I have no idea what the spring rate was for the red ones, but the black ones are 275lb/in and are definitely not soft.  The spring rates for both front and rear were calculated by reverse engineering the stock Lotus 47 spring rate/frequency.  The fronts suspension is the same as the 47, but the rear is slightly different.  By using the frequency from the 47, I worked out the spring rate I needed using the motion ratio of the suspension I designed. 

FunkyCricket
FunkyCricket New Reader
8/30/18 12:38 p.m.

sweet. Just looked like a lot of movement on the video, but it could have just been the angles of the driveway. Sounds wicked though, this is an amazing project and your skills are out of this world.

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