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hobiercr
hobiercr Dork
11/6/13 6:45 p.m.

So awesome to see this set up as a hillclimb car. I bet it's handling characteristics are surprisingly good. Do you run power steering on it? If so, engine or drivetrain driven?

For others looking to do something like this, there is also a 4 cyl option. In FL they are called Outlaw Modifieds and there is a similar series in CN. This is an old picture but it shows a body off chassis next to a bodied one. Most of these guys run a Lima 2.3. My neighbor runs a 2.3 +.60 with s stroker crank, edelbrock aluminum intake and a custom 600 cfm carb. Throttle response is SICK!

KevinGale
KevinGale New Reader
11/6/13 7:31 p.m.
hobiercr wrote: So awesome to see this set up as a hillclimb car. I bet it's handling characteristics are surprisingly good. Do you run power steering on it? If so, engine or drivetrain driven?

Yup I run power steering. Engine driven. In the picture of the motor above the power steering pump is top right. I run an AGR mustang quick ratio rack.

KevinGale
KevinGale Reader
11/6/13 7:37 p.m.
hobiercr wrote: For others looking to do something like this, there is also a 4 cyl option. In FL they are called Outlaw Modifieds and there is a similar series in CN. This is an old picture but it shows a body off chassis next to a bodied one. Most of these guys run a Lima 2.3. My neighbor runs a 2.3 +.60 with s stroker crank, edelbrock aluminum intake and a custom 600 cfm carb. Throttle response is SICK!

I bet that would be fun! Be nice to have something like this for our Mt Philo event. Most of Philo is single lane and it's a narrow lane. My car is basically as wide as the road. Makes what line I can take kinda limited. On the other hand it is really simple to drive since I just have to make the front end follow the road. No worries about what line to take.

One of the guys who races with us runs a dwarf car. This is basically a tiny modified with a motorcycle engine. He wins Philo every time he shows up.

modlite9
modlite9 New Reader
11/6/13 10:17 p.m.

Is the guy with the dwarf car named Sherman?

Conquest351
Conquest351 UltraDork
11/7/13 8:14 a.m.

Dumb question alert...

The engine is 17" behind the front center line of the wheels? Could someone who was absolutely insane decide to convert this thing to AWD using nothing more than a transfer case and front drive axle and associated hardware due to the clearance up there?

BARNCA
BARNCA Dork
11/7/13 8:21 a.m.
hobiercr wrote: So awesome to see this set up as a hillclimb car. I bet it's handling characteristics are surprisingly good. Do you run power steering on it? If so, engine or drivetrain driven? For others looking to do something like this, there is also a 4 cyl option. In FL they are called Outlaw Modifieds and there is a similar series in CN. This is an old picture but it shows a body off chassis next to a bodied one. Most of these guys run a Lima 2.3. My neighbor runs a 2.3 +.60 with s stroker crank, edelbrock aluminum intake and a custom 600 cfm carb. Throttle response is SICK! Those are pro 4 modifieds up here in the northeast..
Rad_Capz
Rad_Capz HalfDork
11/7/13 8:32 a.m.

Thanks for sharing Kevin, very cool car!

DaveEstey
DaveEstey UltraDork
11/7/13 10:11 a.m.

In reply to modlite9:

Yes

KevinGale
KevinGale New Reader
11/7/13 1:23 p.m.
modlite9 wrote: Is the guy with the dwarf car named Sherman?

It sure is!

Sherm is a great guy! He even let me drive his car at one Okemo when my car was broken. It was a blast! I should also add his car is no one course wonder. He always wins at Philo but the car is fast everywhere and he has won the championship with it twice.

KevinGale
KevinGale New Reader
11/7/13 1:32 p.m.
Conquest351 wrote: Dumb question alert... The engine is 17" behind the front center line of the wheels? Could someone who was absolutely insane decide to convert this thing to AWD using nothing more than a transfer case and front drive axle and associated hardware due to the clearance up there?

Anything is possible but few things actually happen.

I'd love to have an AWD modified. The hill records are all held by custom built AWD cars. But it's by no means a simple thing to do. Also finding AWD hardware that can stand lots of torque is a problem. Paul Tinguad owns the hill record at Okemo and Ascutney (regular course). He also won king of the hill this year. But he broke 3 transmissions this year in his custom AWD car.

KevinGale
KevinGale New Reader
11/7/13 1:34 p.m.

Just as an FYI. I've been answering a lot of questions the last couple days. I'm leaving tomorrow for a week of vacation and I may not respond to anything until I get back on Mon the 18th. But keep the questions coming.

dahn16
dahn16 New Reader
11/7/13 2:05 p.m.

Kevin, You mentioned you were 5'7". Is there enough adjustment seat-wise, to fit a taller driver (6'-2" plus helmet) so your head is below the plane of the roof tubes? Thanks -Dan

KevinGale
KevinGale New Reader
11/7/13 2:16 p.m.
dahn16 wrote: Kevin, You mentioned you were 5'7". Is there enough adjustment seat-wise, to fit a taller driver (6'-2" plus helmet) so your head is below the plane of the roof tubes? Thanks -Dan

Yes people that tall drive modifieds. It's mostly a matter of placing the seat correctly. It also probably depends a bit on the exact chassis. I don't have any proof but it looks to me that later model Troyers have more room in the drivers compartment than mine does. Roy Spaulding who races with us is no small guy and he drives a modified. His is a Spafco chassis but it's pretty much the same thing.

KevinGale
KevinGale Reader
4/6/14 10:42 a.m.

We now join with our story in progress.

I've been racing this car for several years already.  Right now I'm in the process of putting it back together after a big crash at Mt Ascutney in 2013. There was also a big crash at Ascutney in 2006. We will know in 2020 if this is an every 7 years event. :-) The new clip is on and here I just finished mounting the front and rear motor plates.

KevinGale
KevinGale Reader
4/6/14 10:44 a.m.

Here is what it looked like a little while ago. The strap on the top with the eye is where I'm going to grab it with the tractor to put it on the trailer.

KevinGale
KevinGale Reader
4/6/14 10:47 a.m.

And here it is back from Rusty Ball with the new front clip.

KevinGale
KevinGale Reader
4/6/14 10:48 a.m.

This addition is tree protection.

Flyin Mikey J
Flyin Mikey J Reader
4/6/14 12:07 p.m.

This has to be one of the coolest things I have ever seen.

edizzle89
edizzle89 Reader
4/6/14 2:30 p.m.

This can only be described as pure automotive awesomeness

KevinGale
KevinGale Reader
4/6/14 5:53 p.m.

It's a blast to drive when it isn't bucking me off. I often feel like I'm riding a bull that is waiting for me to make a mistake so it can throw me off and then stomp on me. But it is always a wild ride.

Timeormoney
Timeormoney Reader
4/6/14 7:24 p.m.

KevinGale
KevinGale Reader
4/9/14 8:35 p.m.

What a beautiful rear end.

KevinGale
KevinGale Reader
4/12/14 7:42 p.m.

Front clip now available in Gold!

KevinGale
KevinGale Reader
4/19/14 10:49 a.m.

Shiny, We wants it, we needs it. Must have the precious.

Nice shiny new Sweet power streering rack. This new front clip uses this style rack instead of the old Ford Mustang unit. The nice part is you can order this in pretty much any ratio you want. I've got about a turn and a half lock to lock.

KevinGale
KevinGale Reader
4/20/14 10:10 p.m.

Crash landing protection in place. The first picture shows how the radiator was mounted in the stock Troyer setup. In the next two pictures you can see the new bar that goes in front of the sway bar mount. The old bar (as the piece came from Troyer) came up before the sway bar mount and the radiator mounted lower and in front of that. So the radiator was the leading edge. If you look at the last picture you can see why that won't work. I'd rip it off when it was the first thing to hit the pavement after a jump. Also it probably wouldn't even live just driving around the pits at some hills or turning around at the top.

As it came from Troyer

Changed to move the bar forward with the radiator mounted behind that.

New bar and mega strong protection in front of the the radiator. There is a 1" tube, 1" angle iron and some more steel connecting those together.

Landing after the Ascutney jump. The old front cross member hitting the pavement.

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