46 47 48
Speedy_Fitz
Speedy_Fitz New Reader
12/9/21 10:22 p.m.

In reply to KevinGale :

Thank you! I hope the same. I have quite a few questions for you, but I just joined the forum so I can't private message you.

KevinGale
KevinGale HalfDork
12/10/21 9:39 a.m.

In reply to Speedy_Fitz :

You are welcome to just post the questions here unless it gets really long then we might want to take it offline.  Also it may help you in other ways. There are more that a few people who read here that know a lot more than I do about many things.  It's not like I am posting much right now. It's the off season and the car will probably just sit on the lift until spring.  

StripesSA1
StripesSA1 Reader
12/10/21 12:13 p.m.
KevinGale said:

In reply to Speedy_Fitz :

You are welcome to just post the questions here unless it gets really long then we might want to take it offline.  Also it may help you in other ways. There are more that a few people who read here that know a lot more than I do about many things.  It's not like I am posting much right now. It's the off season and the car will probably just sit on the lift until spring.  

And can I add my 2cents?

Some off us would also like to know a bit more, but did not know we wanted to know more, until someone else asked that specific question. 

zrtman
zrtman
1/5/22 2:24 p.m.

Kevin, long time reader - finally joined forum so I can post some questions.

Been thinking about a modified for years to replace my C5 Corvette in HPDE. Street cars are expensive to maintain and expensive to repair. And not nearly as safe as purpose built track car. I thought a Troyer mod with a pump gas sbc or LS would be fun and less expensive to maintain. And really safe. 

Do you know the differences in Troyer chassis? TA1, TA2, TA3, etc. Or/and what year did the 'modern' chassis start? Are some less offset than others? Or what not to buy because parts are obsolete?

When I see them for sale.. some just have year of chassis when new, some have been updated to TA2 (etc). Not ready to buy yet, just been watching what is out there.

 

zrtman
zrtman New Reader
1/5/22 2:31 p.m.

In reply to Speedy_Fitz :

Do you have any info on differences in Troyer chassis?

I do remember hearing that the deaths in mid 80's- early 90's they thought it was the chassis's because they were too stiff... no crumple zones etc. Not sure if they changed the chassis much or using Hans, better seats etc improved the saftey?

KevinGale
KevinGale HalfDork
1/6/22 9:49 a.m.

I’m not really up on the differences between the Troyer chassis. For what you want to do I doubt it will make much difference. In the past I’ve said that if I was going to do this again I would avoid chassis earlier than the late 90’s.  That was because at that point it was possible to still order body panels and nerf bars for those chassis but not for anything earlier than that. That is probably still true but the year has likely moved. It might be 2000’s now for example.  The cars in the early 90’s and before also had straight bars going from the top of the firewall to the front clip.  Those were too stiff and didn’t crumple well enough. The newer cars all have a bend in those bars.  The newer cars also have extra protection around the driver.

There is a facebook group for Northeast Asphalt Modifieds  (link below)   I suspect you might be able to ask there about chassis differences.  The group is more about history and sharing old photos but it is bound to be full of people who know a lot about this stuff and who would love to share.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/134884933387143

 

Another group “TOUR TYPE MODIFIED CARS & PARTS FOR SALE”  might also help as it often has cars for sale

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1406721499561306

 

And I'm also in the Thompson Speedway Racing Flea Market group. There are often cars and parts for sale there and you might be able to ask the sellers a few questions.  

https://www.facebook.com/groups/thompsonspeedwayfleamarket

If you find out anything that steers you one way or another please post it here. I'd like to know. 

 

 

 

zrtman
zrtman New Reader
1/10/22 10:28 a.m.

In reply to KevinGale :

Ok thank you for info. If I find out anything I will share it on here.

I wanted it for HPDE but it may not be ideal with some of the clubs I run with. I contacted a few about running open wheeled car.. one said no problem, two will not give me a straight answer and one was "the track does not allow open wheel, tires exposed, with closed wheel, tires not exposed". So thinking now maybe a Super Late Model which is somewhat similar with less tire and full body. Or perimeter frame late model like an ACT tour car.

Really would like to run a DOT tire like a R888.. but 15" wheel really limit things. Ever seem a 18" diameter wide 5 wheel? lol Or even 5x5 hub 18".

Where are you going for chassis work since Rusty passed?

KevinGale
KevinGale HalfDork
1/12/22 8:37 p.m.
zrtman said:

In reply to KevinGale :

Ok thank you for info. If I find out anything I will share it on here.

I wanted it for HPDE but it may not be ideal with some of the clubs I run with. I contacted a few about running open wheeled car.. one said no problem, two will not give me a straight answer and one was "the track does not allow open wheel, tires exposed, with closed wheel, tires not exposed". So thinking now maybe a Super Late Model which is somewhat similar with less tire and full body. Or perimeter frame late model like an ACT tour car.

Really would like to run a DOT tire like a R888.. but 15" wheel really limit things. Ever seem a 18" diameter wide 5 wheel? lol Or even 5x5 hub 18".

Where are you going for chassis work since Rusty passed?

I haven't tried to run my car at anything but hillclimbs. I have however had more than a few people say that it probably wouldn't be allowed by various clubs.  The issue always seemed revolve around it being open wheel. If it had a body that enclosed the wheels they said it probably wouldn't be a problem.   So this is an issue.

I haven't had to have any chassis work done since Rusty passed.  I'm not really sure what I will do.  Certainly there are other places that will put a clip on a Troyer.  I mean the guys that circle track race them have to have someone who does it.  So I would probably ask around.  I think Northeast Race Cars will do clips https://www.nerace.com/.

I might also opt to get a new chassis.  Just buy a new roller and transfer everything over.  We'll see.  

 

KevinGale
KevinGale HalfDork
3/14/22 12:15 p.m.

Having a nice quiet off season. The car has just been sitting up on the lift so I can park under it.  It's another nice benefit of the lift I hadn't really planned on. With it all the way up I can park another car under it. 

But last weekend we did have our annual NEHA rules meeting and awards.    Pretty happy to get these.

 

This FL class image is taken at Burke at check point 1.  The car is very light here with the wheels almost off the ground.  We do see some cars get air here if you hit it fast enough.  The problem is the road turns so if you hit it too fast then you have air right when need to turn!

 

KevinGale
KevinGale HalfDork
4/26/22 5:45 p.m.

First race (Philo) is coming up this weekend.  I need to stop working the the new electric bikes and do a couple things to the car. 

Fortunately it doesn't need much.  I need to fill up the cooling system with water and swap out new gears for Philo.  I already washed the seat cover that one of my cats decided to puke on and I fixed the jack that was broken.  So I've made some progress.  I also dewinterized the motorhome so it's at least ready.

NY Nick
NY Nick Dork
4/26/22 7:15 p.m.

In reply to KevinGale :

Glad to see you ready to rock another season. Looking forward to pics of the first race. Wait a minute. Not pics, in car video!

KevinGale
KevinGale HalfDork
4/27/22 11:47 a.m.

In reply to NY Nick :

I'll just repost this video and change the date.  It all looks the same!  :-)

 

KevinGale
KevinGale HalfDork
4/27/22 11:52 a.m.

Personally I like watching the launch videos more.  Maybe I should have taken up drag racing.

 

J.A. Ackley
J.A. Ackley Senior Editor
4/27/22 12:14 p.m.

As someone who grew up with modifieds at Riverhead Raceway, this brings back fond memories. I bet it's a thrill on the hill.

759NRNG
759NRNG UberDork
4/27/22 9:06 p.m.

KG awesome in car footage!!!!!  What MPH's are we looking at?

KevinGale
KevinGale HalfDork
4/28/22 12:03 p.m.
J.A. Ackley said:

As someone who grew up with modifieds at Riverhead Raceway, this brings back fond memories. I bet it's a thrill on the hill.

It's like riding a bull. It wants to throw me off and stomp on me.  But it's a thrill when I make it to the top without getting thrown off.  :-)

KevinGale
KevinGale HalfDork
4/28/22 12:06 p.m.
759NRNG said:

KG awesome in car footage!!!!!  What MPH's are we looking at?

Not very high. Philo narrow and twisty.    I don't think the highest speed I hit anywhere is over 100 mph.   I'd guess 90 something peak in a couple places.   At the rock turn you get down to just about a walking speed. Or at least that is what it feels like.

KevinGale
KevinGale HalfDork
5/3/22 9:25 a.m.

Back from Mt Philo,

We had great weather. Dry and quite warm on Sunday.    We had all kinds of timing issues on Saturday morning and I ended up working at Finish until lunch. After lunch I still got a few runs in.  The car was feeling great.  I was pitted next to Luke and Paul in the Chicken I and Chicken II.  The two Chickens were both faster than me which didn't surprise me.

Sunday morning Paul had a major failure in the Chicken II.  He broke a rear axle off the line on the first run.  That took him out for the day although he later made one run where he had front wheel drive only.  It was a slow run (for a Chicken anyway) and Paul said it was not a fun experience and not worth repeating.

Luke was going good in the Chicken I and some other years I might have tried to catch him.  

I made three runs before lunch and got down to a 1:09  which is about 5 seconds off my personal best.  But I just had no desire to chase Luke of even drive the car in the afternoon and I sat it out.   Luke won the event. (Congrats Luke!) and I finished second.

No in car video.  I did put the GoPro in on the third run on Sunday but the car slipped out of gear just after the start.  (Pretty sure it was driver error) And since that destroying the time for that run I just cruised slowly to the top.   Michelle Wood did get this short vid of the car launching.

 

 

46 47 48
Birthdays
Our Preferred Partners
6R74tbSIwMKWW7GayNcEBJtX181SOBVoSDGjeyNfjlkjE9NPnzKJkHWnnf50i7V0