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Toebra
Toebra Dork
8/21/19 12:42 p.m.

That looks pretty minty fresh for a track car. 

 

How are the seats, the bolsters look a little weak.  I wonder if you could do a "foamectomy" like is done with Miatae seats to sit lower and enhance lateral support.

jstein77
jstein77 UberDork
8/21/19 1:24 p.m.

I love the exhaust note.

BionicTigerShark
BionicTigerShark New Reader
8/21/19 4:17 p.m.

I have nothing useful to add other than saying awesome car.

Also it was nice to meet both of you this past Saturday.   I hope to see you at more events.

pontiacstogo
pontiacstogo New Reader
8/21/19 10:29 p.m.
Toebra said:

That looks pretty minty fresh for a track car. 

Thanks - but the photos hide a lot.  There are definitely nicks and scratches and the front bumper cover is heavily chipped from it's early days on track.  That's an interesting thought on the bolsters - I've been wondering if a harness might do a better job of holding me securely than the factory belts.  

pontiacstogo
pontiacstogo New Reader
8/21/19 10:30 p.m.
BionicTigerShark said:

Also it was nice to meet both of you this past Saturday.   I hope to see you at more events.

I'm guessing Ryan?  Apologies if I've got the wrong person. 

It was nice to meet you as well!

BionicTigerShark
BionicTigerShark New Reader
8/22/19 3:08 a.m.

In reply to pontiacstogo :

Yea  I'm Ryan. I probably should have said that earlier. 

RedGT
RedGT Dork
8/22/19 5:05 a.m.
pontiacstogo said:
Toebra said:

That looks pretty minty fresh for a track car. 

Thanks - but the photos hide a lot.  There are definitely nicks and scratches and the front bumper cover is heavily chipped from it's early days on track.  That's an interesting thought on the bolsters - I've been wondering if a harness might do a better job of holding me securely than the factory belts.  

I saw a huge difference from putting on the crappy harness in mine. The factory seats are really bad and you are probably holding yourself in place with the steering wheel wheyher you realize it or not.  GForce also makes an upper body/torso strap thing just for autocross (not safe on street or track) that is economical and works pretty well.

pontiacstogo
pontiacstogo New Reader
8/22/19 7:19 a.m.
RedGT said:

I saw a huge difference from putting on the crappy harness in mine. The factory seats are really bad and you are probably holding yourself in place with the steering wheel wheyher you realize it or not.  GForce also makes an upper body/torso strap thing just for autocross (not safe on street or track) that is economical and works pretty well.

No it's a good call.  I can't seem to brace well with my left leg as I need it to shift gears AND when I do brace with it, I can really only do so by using my knee on the door panel versus my foot on the floor.  I am also becoming aware that I am 'hunching up' and using the steering wheel for a brace as well - exactly as you describe.

The car did have a 5 x point Pyrotect harness when it was tracked - but the PO removed it as part of the efforts to return the car to street mode (I still have it but it's 25 years old).  I need to do some research and see what I can come up with that would work and still keep the car safe for street use.  My roll bar also has no bar at shoulder height so I may have to do something there as well.  

Toebra
Toebra Dork
8/22/19 8:35 p.m.

25 year old harness, ha.  I have dated women younger than the seatbelts in my 914, so I guess I should not be laughing.

 

Probably has all the attachment points for the harness still there, so that will be easier.

 

CAM-C, can you swap out the seats, or does that put you in EP or something?

RedGT
RedGT Dork
8/22/19 9:54 p.m.

You can do seats in CAM, they just have to have fabric covered seating surfaces iirc.  "Finished interior".

pontiacstogo
pontiacstogo New Reader
8/23/19 7:31 a.m.
RedGT said:

You can do seats in CAM, they just have to have fabric covered seating surfaces iirc.  "Finished interior".

I'd like to keep the stock seats if possible - it's just my personal preference but I'm wary of moving the needle to far too the 'dedicated track car' side of the gauge. 

I suspect a harness may help a lot with Autocross and that's likely something I will tackle over winter.  However in order to do that I will need some sort of shoulder level bar fitted to my existing 4 x point cage.  Not sure how that all works in terms of the stock belts too i.e. do you typically remove those altogether, or leave them there in addition to the harness(es).  My current cage is welded in - does a harness/shoulder bar need to be welded in or can it be bolted in?  The Pyrotect harness that came with the car is too far gone so I would need to buy a new one (or ones).  Does the harness need to be current on dates for Autocross or can they be expired new belts?  5 point or 4 point?  3 inch or 2 inch?

I need to do some GRM searching and general research laugh.

Toebra
Toebra Dork
8/23/19 8:18 a.m.

Seats are a pretty easy thing to swap back and forth, a few bolts and maybe a sensor for the seatbelt buzzer.  Friend of mine had a bolt in rollbar for his 993 convertible that he tracked, did not run it on the street with the bar because he did not wear a helmet on the street to protect his melon from it.

pontiacstogo
pontiacstogo New Reader
8/30/19 7:23 p.m.

Still making plans for harnesses/seats/crossbar (maybe).

In other news - I got the UMI subframe connectors in.  Great way to add weight with no perceivable improvement in handling laugh

pontiacstogo
pontiacstogo New Reader
10/20/19 10:19 a.m.

Last event for the year yesterday in Phillipsburg PA.  It was a cold day and the early runs were very slippery - managed to take out a cone and drag it to the finish line - that was a first for me.

Shaky video of the cone incident smiley

 

MrFancypants
MrFancypants New Reader
10/20/19 10:34 a.m.

It's great to see such a well cared for Camaro that still gets used as intended.  yes

Furious_E
Furious_E UltraDork
10/20/19 11:11 a.m.

I do still miss mine every once in a while, especially seeing a clean one like this running through the cones. 

slowbird
slowbird HalfDork
10/20/19 11:25 a.m.

Om nom nom...Camaro is hungry for cones :D

RedGT
RedGT Dork
10/24/19 8:17 a.m.

Nice to meet you Saturday!  Car is gorgeous, better kept than mine for sure.

As for the pace, you are a bit 'behind' in that video, which hurts pace a LOT in a big car on a tight course, and this was a very tight course.  However watching in person the line looked decent on many of your other runs, I think you just need lots of seat time to know how much more aggressive you can be on those same lines.

pontiacstogo
pontiacstogo New Reader
10/26/19 1:15 p.m.
RedGT said:

Nice to meet you Saturday! 

Likewise. 

Yes, my wife and I are definitely not the quickest people out there.  That was my 5th event and my wife's 4th.  We have definitely improved over the year but we still have a lot to learn.  We have a blast in the Camaro though and plan to attend as many of our local events as we can next year - maybe an Autox school if we can find one?

pontiacstogo
pontiacstogo Reader
2/6/20 9:20 p.m.

We just signed up for our first HPDE weekend at Summit Point.  My wife will be running the car Saturday and I will be running it Sunday.   We have to miss the season opener for our local AutoX region, but we've been wanting to get the car on a road course ever since we bought it.  Can't wait!

RacingComputers
RacingComputers Reader
2/8/20 6:26 p.m.

Thanks for the posts

 

Interest read

 

Good Luck

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
2/14/20 3:50 p.m.

Just bumping this so I can move it to the Build forum as requested.

V6Buicks
V6Buicks New Reader
2/14/20 9:50 p.m.

Hello fellow fourth gen owner!

Neat car!  I don't think I've never seen a 1LE in person.  Is it true that 1LEs had a factory AC delete?  I've been curious about what that looks like if it's true.  I put a firewall plate in my car because I needed the space, but I refused to give up heat.  Man, that was a big undertaking, so I'm even more curious now how the factory did it.

 

pontiacstogo
pontiacstogo Reader
2/15/20 3:08 p.m.
V6Buicks said:

Hello fellow fourth gen owner!

Neat car!  I don't think I've never seen a 1LE in person.  Is it true that 1LEs had a factory AC delete?  I've been curious about what that looks like if it's true.  I put a firewall plate in my car because I needed the space, but I refused to give up heat.  Man, that was a big undertaking, so I'm even more curious now how the factory did it.

I'm no expert but it's my understanding that air conditioning was deleted on all the 1LE's up until 1996.  There's an engine shot a couple of pages back but I'd be happy to post some more detailed pictures of the RH side of the engine bay once the car is out of storage for the year.

V6Buicks
V6Buicks New Reader
2/17/20 9:06 a.m.

In reply to pontiacstogo :

Gotcha!  So it IS real!  That's cool.  I saw the engine bay pic, but it was hard to see what the delete panel looked like.  Thanks for the info!  I look forward to seeing more updates.

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