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Joseph
Joseph New Reader
8/18/18 11:26 a.m.

Finally back at it....

Started to swap over everything from the original 1300 to the 1500 sourced from an X1/9. The oil pan and pick up and clearly different. So are little things like the thermostat and various accessory brackets.  I need to locate a header and intake/carb setup ASAP. Only option may be to source parts from Europe. I posted WTB adds in the fiat fourms but no luck yet. Anyone out there have a DCOE or DCNF Weber setup for a Fiat SOHC?  

TED_fiestaHP
TED_fiestaHP Reader
8/18/18 1:25 p.m.

Look up stoles race shop.

   There is a nice X1/9 header available, but you would need to modify it to work, I might use that one, when I ever get back to my 128 vintage racer.  I think Vicks sells the X1/9 header.

TED_fiestaHP
TED_fiestaHP Reader
8/18/18 1:30 p.m.
Joseph
Joseph New Reader
8/22/18 8:09 p.m.

The X1/9 had a cast aluminum oil pan. The 128 appears to have a stamped steel pan which is shallower than the X1/9 variant.

X1/9 oil pan removed to make way for the steel 128 pan...

 

As a result the pick-up foot on the oil pump had to be swapped over. Also, the breather vent oil return tube is also 128 specific (it is shorter).  The only other item other than the oil pan itself is the dipstick. The X1/9 block has an aluminum dipstick holder threaded into the block along with a much longer dipstick. I think I am going to remove the holder (as the 128 came) and use the shorter 128 dip stick.

The 128 breather vent oil return tube is shorter than the X1/9's...

 

Cleaned up, swapped oil pan, distributor and a new thermostat...

New aluminum cam gear and new water pump...

New water pump and housing, new 128 specific water tube and bypass hose to thermostat...

brad131a4
brad131a4 Reader
8/22/18 10:27 p.m.

I wonder if you could stuff a 1608 in there. Block looks the same just the head is a little bigger. You could even convert it to the block driven distributor.  Might have to look into a 128 after I get my two 124 spiders done.

TED_fiestaHP
TED_fiestaHP Reader
8/23/18 5:25 a.m.

   The 128 and X1/9 engines are mounted at a slightly different angle, that is why the oil pan and the oil pick up is different.   You might find a cast aluminum 128 oil pan but those might not be factory original parts.   But a lot of stuff from a X1/9 can be used, since that car was basically made from a 128.

Joseph
Joseph New Reader
8/23/18 10:12 a.m.

In reply to TED_fiestaHP :

I'd love to find a reasonably priced Alquati unit....

Joseph
Joseph New Reader
8/31/18 11:28 a.m.

Picked up a Ziotti intake with twin Dellorto FRD carbs.  Probably going to be a hassle to get running right, but looks pretty cool!

 

tdrrally
tdrrally Reader
8/31/18 11:43 a.m.

love it!

Mezzanine
Mezzanine Dork
8/31/18 11:45 a.m.

I've got zero experience with the FRD carbs, but it does look nice! Should pick up some power with the duals too. Keep up the good work!

TED_fiestaHP
TED_fiestaHP Reader
8/31/18 7:19 p.m.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50HAh0GNrgk

Not mine but this is how it should sound....

mikedd969
mikedd969 New Reader
9/2/18 2:47 p.m.

Awesome!  Glad to see one of these little cars getting some love and attention. I am really enjoying this thread/build!!

I have such a weakness for 60's and 70's Fiat cars.  I spent 2 years in the late 80's in Sicily when I was serving in the Navy.  Naturally those vintage Fiat's were plentiful and cheap in those days. Young guys like myself didn't have a lot of money, and needed transportation, so a lot of guys bought them.  They had (probably still do) a reputation as crappy cars, and, to some degree they were.  The build quality and choice of materials was often........questionable at best, but despite those handicaps, some of the engineering was excellent, particularly in the drivetrain.

I earned a lot of extra $$ "Flipping" ( that term wasn't what it was called back then) cars while I was there.  People would buy one, drive the crap out of it for 2 or 3 years and then have to sell it before they transferred back to the US.  Certain quirks of the law (Status of Forces Agreement) meant that most of the time, once an American servicemember bought a car from an Italian, they could only sell that car to another American servicemember.  I lost count of the cars I owned and sold while I was there, but a lot of them were Fiat 124's 127's, 128's 131's and 132's.  I came to respect the engineering guys in Turin. The rest of the car might rust to the ground or fall apart, and the electrics were terrible, but those engines......  A few simple tools, and you could fix almost anything that went wrong with one.  I have a particular love affair with the Aurelio Lampredi designed DOHC 4-cylinder series of engines found in the 124 and 131.....such a sweet engine and the SOUND those thins make.... To this day the '74 124 Sport Coupe with the 1800cc engine is one of my favorite out of all the cars I have ever owned.  That thing was a blast to drive!!

Looking forward to seeing how your 128 turns out!!  Now I just have to keep myself from trolling Craigslist looking for old Fiats...... If my self-control fails and I wind up with one it will be your fault!!!  smiley

Joseph
Joseph New Reader
9/2/18 6:09 p.m.

In reply to mikedd969 :

I'll gladly take the blame!

TED_fiestaHP
TED_fiestaHP Reader
9/2/18 8:14 p.m.

 

 

This is the X1/9 header available from Vicks fiat.  You can see how it would need to be modified, but could be easier than having to build the entire header.  Other option is to have one shipped from over seas, possibly Italy.

 

 

 

mikedd969
mikedd969 New Reader
9/2/18 9:26 p.m.
Joseph said:

In reply to mikedd969 :

I'll gladly take the blame!

LOL!  I think I am safe. smiley  Unless a 124 Sport Coupe pops up in my area....then all bets are off!!!  I doubt that's going to happen.  They were never imported here in big numbers.  I've seen very few for sale, usually restored or very good condition examples, with prices to match.  I can't say that I have ever actually seen one here in the US. The spider was the only 124 variant that sold here in significant numbers.   

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