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Dusterbd13
Dusterbd13 UltraDork
7/3/15 8:26 p.m.

so I use my shop for a little bit of everything. from building hot rods/customs, fabrication, maintenance, woodworking, peace and quiet, etc. you name it, I probably do it in here. (within reason...)

anyway, for years ive needed to do something about it. space was not being utilized properly, couldn't find things due to disorganization, no way to get organization, dim, dirty, etc. just really an unpleasant hole in the ground.

when I started collecting and restoring vintage power tools to hopefully get back into woodworking, it really became apparent that something needed to be done. so I spent the last year assessing my needs/wants, and looking for ideas. ive got a general plan now.

anyway, here's a before picture or seven.

from outside: dimensions are 27 wide, 17.5 deep, 14 foot ceilings) [URL=http://s54.photobucket.com/user/dusterbd13/media/031_zpsd8ec6171.jpg.html][/URL]

right side wall: [URL=http://s54.photobucket.com/user/dusterbd13/media/022_zps39961cb0.jpg.html][/URL] [URL=http://s54.photobucket.com/user/dusterbd13/media/20150603_171954_zps6jns9xem.jpg.html][/URL] [URL=http://s54.photobucket.com/user/dusterbd13/media/20150703_071332_zps5wfzhv1w.jpg.html][/URL]

back wall: [URL=http://s54.photobucket.com/user/dusterbd13/media/024_zps94173afb.jpg.html][/URL] [URL=http://s54.photobucket.com/user/dusterbd13/media/20150610_172114_zpsgzkr9biu.jpg.html][/URL]

left wall: [URL=http://s54.photobucket.com/user/dusterbd13/media/025_zpscf47ac05.jpg.html][/URL] [URL=http://s54.photobucket.com/user/dusterbd13/media/026_zpsef5b0442.jpg.html][/URL] [URL=http://s54.photobucket.com/user/dusterbd13/media/030_zpsb71480c5.jpg.html][/URL] [URL=http://s54.photobucket.com/user/dusterbd13/media/20150603_171937_zpsxgu5dnhc.jpg.html][/URL]

front wall: [URL=http://s54.photobucket.com/user/dusterbd13/media/029_zps5fe1f0fd.jpg.html][/URL]

so, pretty bad, right? well, even if you don't think so, I think it is. I want it much, much better.

so I started in this week. step one was starting to get everything out of the right bay so I could enlarge the hole to the crawl space. see, the crawl is almost six foot tall, and I store a lot of parts and stuff up there. but the hole, and the way I've been accessing it, just aren't safe. after my father had a ladder accident that damn near killed him a few weeks ago, safety is job #1.

anyway, here's where we started this morning. [URL=http://s54.photobucket.com/user/dusterbd13/media/20150703_070515_zpsmkiyjdzf.jpg.html][/URL] [URL=http://s54.photobucket.com/user/dusterbd13/media/20150703_070519_zps0pyzbjai.jpg.html][/URL] [URL=http://s54.photobucket.com/user/dusterbd13/media/20150703_070519_zps0pyzbjai.jpg.html][/URL]

I rented an electric jackhammer and concrete saw to enlarge the hole. and no, that wall is not load bearing. [URL=http://s54.photobucket.com/user/dusterbd13/media/20150703_125736_zpsyfudqeyy.jpg.html][/URL] [URL=http://s54.photobucket.com/user/dusterbd13/media/20150703_125739_zpsonegqtpt.jpg.html][/URL]

I also got an AC vent added to the ductwork. still need to make a rod to turn it off and on without having to get out the 8 foot ladder. [URL=http://s54.photobucket.com/user/dusterbd13/media/20150703_070602_zpshcbq96ux.jpg.html][/URL]

next up is moving more stuff out of the way, scrapping the old workbench, and pressure washing the floor. [URL=http://s54.photobucket.com/user/dusterbd13/media/20150703_070536_zpssdgk7pjt.jpg.html][/URL]

reason being, I scored 550sq foot of Armstrong VCT and 5 gallons of adhesive for $120. the blue lines in it are almost a dead ringer for the 50's craftsman blue/gray on my table saw and lathe. [URL=http://s54.photobucket.com/user/dusterbd13/media/20150703_151842_zpsa7uwvu23.jpg.html][/URL] [URL=http://s54.photobucket.com/user/dusterbd13/media/20150703_151849_zps23qp85lg.jpg.html][/URL]

after the floor is done, ill get my load of galvalume and do the ceiling on this side, install more outlets, and start building all the cabinetry/workbenches. then, on to the other side!

at the moment, with tool rentals and the floor, budget spent is $190 (I keep running budget tallies on most of my projects. this one will be rounded to the nearest whole dollar throughout)

OHSCrifle
OHSCrifle HalfDork
7/3/15 8:41 p.m.

Cool project.

Crawl space access is looking good except the block above the door caught my attention. Is that a Crack at top left?

If the wall isn't load bearing, why not extend the opening all the way to the top of the block?

Dusterbd13
Dusterbd13 UltraDork
7/3/15 8:47 p.m.

Its actually magic marker, not a crack.

And the remaining riw if block is pretty much just there fir a more finished look when I'm done. And to remind me to duck a little bit.

OHSCrifle
OHSCrifle HalfDork
7/3/15 9:30 p.m.

Good. No worries then.

Quite likely the top course of block is filled with grout (concrete) and rebar.

Dusterbd13
Dusterbd13 UltraDork
7/3/15 9:35 p.m.

Actually, the whole wall was filled with concrete and rebar. Im going to feel this tomorrow.

Thanks for looking out for me OHScrifle

Dusterbd13
Dusterbd13 UltraDork
7/6/15 10:23 a.m.

got my pressure washing done on 2/3 of the shop. have a little concrete patching to do before starting the floor due to some chunks being knocked out where I dropped things. but everything is moved over to the left side and its cleaned. [URL=http://s54.photobucket.com/user/dusterbd13/media/20150705_175407_zpsiqax459a.jpg.html][/URL] [URL=http://s54.photobucket.com/user/dusterbd13/media/20150705_175407_zpsiqax459a.jpg.html][/URL]

here is a picture of the old workbench. its been sufficient for everything ive thrown at it, but I can build something much better. the old bench should be leaving this week. that will free up some space. behind it is the old bench that has been living in my shed for the last couple of years. it may leave as well. but right now its my workbench for the renovation. [URL=http://s54.photobucket.com/user/dusterbd13/media/20150705_175423_zps7kqrujnz.jpg.html][/URL]

I also picked up a new air compressor. it will be living in the crawlspace I just opened up, and plumbed into the shop. big enough to do all I need it to. [URL=http://s54.photobucket.com/user/dusterbd13/media/20150703_070546_zpsmxwhiafq.jpg.html][/URL]

ive got the shop drying out now. should start the VCT installation in the next couple of days. im getting excited.

Kenny_McCormic
Kenny_McCormic PowerDork
7/6/15 2:32 p.m.

When you plumb that compressor, make sure to plumb the water drain somewhere readily accessible.

Dusterbd13
Dusterbd13 UltraDork
7/6/15 3:37 p.m.

I had planned to run an external regulator, power switch, and drainon the wall near the bolt rack. That subject to cha, obviously. Got a general plan in my head for a visually neat and clean 50s style shop inspired by the game fallout.

Mad_Ratel
Mad_Ratel HalfDork
7/6/15 6:12 p.m.

Where did you get the tile?

Dusterbd13
Dusterbd13 UberDork
7/6/15 6:18 p.m.

Habitat for humanity restore. They've still got about 600 square foot left.

Mad_Ratel
Mad_Ratel HalfDork
7/6/15 7:03 p.m.

quietly does math while sitting next to wife.

I need 400 sq ft... ish.

Dusterbd13
Dusterbd13 UltraDork
7/6/15 7:08 p.m.

Hmm...

Tell me if you want me to pull the trigger and ill give you my PayPal and a total...

Mad_Ratel
Mad_Ratel HalfDork
7/6/15 7:11 p.m.

Wife just harumphed me. :(

Mad_Ratel
Mad_Ratel HalfDork
7/6/15 7:12 p.m.

any idea what product number vct it is? want to see some more pics w/o asking you for some.

Dusterbd13
Dusterbd13 UltraDork
7/6/15 7:17 p.m.

Its storm beige. Unsure of manufacturer. Want to say Armstrong, but not written on the box.

Dusterbd13
Dusterbd13 UltraDork
7/6/15 7:20 p.m.

http://www.lawsonbrothersfloor.com/product_item/Vinyl+Tile-Roppe-ESD+Static+Control+Vinyl+Tile-Storm+Beige/details.html?ProductTypeID=74&ProductAliasId=7DF14C78-32CB-4FCC-A855-1825BBA9A6C1

Dusterbd13
Dusterbd13 UltraDork
7/13/15 12:13 p.m.

budget: previous total: 190

this update: vct adhesive and trowl: 32 floor rooler rental: 12 garage door threshold: 40 nachos and cheese for the help: free!!

new total: 274

so, busy weekend. laid most of the shop worth of tile Friday. when I had purchased my tile, I had gotten a four gallon bucket of adhesive and a couple of trowels with it. score!!

reading the directions on the bucket, it called for a specific trowel. that I didn't have. ok, ill go get one. continuing reading upon return from Lowes to find out that the adhesive is only good for one year from date of manufacture. which was 2012. well, crap. back in the truck.

so I got two gallons of the henry adhesive and a trowel. also rented a 120lb floor roller from my rental guy. hes getting to know me on a first name basis right now....

got off work Friday about noon. blew/swept/vacuumed the floor one more time, and started spreading adhesive. you don't realize just how flawed the floor really is until you start seeing slight imperfections fill with adhesive. I though it was good and flat, but nope. not really. [URL=http://s54.photobucket.com/user/dusterbd13/media/20150710_132717_zpsfgnr7pl4.jpg.html][/URL]

anyway, took about an hour to spread glue, and it turned clear in about another hour. during the dry time, I threw a stack of tiles out in the sun to warm up and get limber. [URL=http://s54.photobucket.com/user/dusterbd13/media/20150710_132720_zpsn5fnpisu.jpg.html][/URL]

I started at my chalklines for square. somehow I got crooked within the first couple, and proceeded to stay crooked. cant tell looking at it, and it doesn't bother me, so im not going to worry about it. did the pyramid style to the best of my ability. [URL=http://s54.photobucket.com/user/dusterbd13/media/20150710_145317_zps9kgndzok.jpg.html][/URL]

got to this point, and started to roll it to make sure we had everything stuck down good. [URL=http://s54.photobucket.com/user/dusterbd13/media/20150710_145331_zpsvpjlgnbu.jpg.html][/URL]

about this time, my helper arrived home. all three foot, 55lbs of her six year old self. she wanted to run the roller. so I let her. [URL=http://s54.photobucket.com/user/dusterbd13/media/20150710_161134_zpssznzkfeq.jpg.html][/URL]

then she wanted to learn how to lay the tile. she actually did a bit better than me. momma took pictures of us working to send to her grandparents. [URL=http://s54.photobucket.com/user/dusterbd13/media/20150710_161214_zpsjiwoqu4b.jpg.html][/URL] [URL=http://s54.photobucket.com/user/dusterbd13/media/20150710_162156_zpsyfnbukey.jpg.html][/URL]

finished up the day on Friday with cutting all the little pieces at the sides and cutting in at the garage door. found for the really complex shapes at the garage door that the band saw was my best friend. [URL=http://s54.photobucket.com/user/dusterbd13/media/20150710_184055_zpseafpxd84.jpg.html][/URL]

tools look good on the new floor: [URL=http://s54.photobucket.com/user/dusterbd13/media/20150711_134944_zpsoejssbzu.jpg.html][/URL]

also got some threshold molding for the door openings. [URL=http://s54.photobucket.com/user/dusterbd13/media/20150711_134936_zps4dmg6gcb.jpg.html][/URL]

the last thing I did, Sunday after church, was to tear down my old workbench. I built it about 10 years ago when I needed a bench. used some shipping crates, leftover OSB and 2X6. it has been a damn tank. but ugly and a poor use of space. so I removed my vice, and scavenged the 2X6 for reuse. [URL=http://s54.photobucket.com/user/dusterbd13/media/20150711_142108_zpszkkf8wrh.jpg.html][/URL]

next is stripping, sealing, and waxing the floors, as well as deciding id I want to do the rubber baseboard molding. I also need to get my tin for the ceiling, and figure out the best way to do it with the nicest fit and finish, as lowest pain in the butt factor.

Mad_Ratel
Mad_Ratel HalfDork
7/13/15 12:35 p.m.

That floor looks great. Some discoloring already (last bench pic). But I wonder if that'll go when you strip and seal it.

Is there a reason you did not paint walls first?

Dusterbd13
Dusterbd13 UltraDork
7/13/15 12:40 p.m.

so this is what my ceiling looks like now: [URL=http://s54.photobucket.com/user/dusterbd13/media/20150606_152417_zpsuktc9ope.jpg.html][/URL] [URL=http://s54.photobucket.com/user/dusterbd13/media/20150603_171937_zpsxgu5dnhc.jpg.html][/URL] [URL=http://s54.photobucket.com/user/dusterbd13/media/20150603_171926_zpsnxmpavyw.jpg.html][/URL]

goal is neat, clean, reflective, and CHEAP. the tin quote, just for the 500 sqft of tin, was 270. that doesn't include anything else id need to get it up there.

I also have 4 4 bulb recessed/dropped ceiling light fixtures, and the 7 2 bulb four footers for lights. so, ideas? I cant get past tin or drywall or dropped ceilings. got to be a better/cheaper option. I also want to keep it pretty close to the current ceiling, so I don't lose much space. granted, I need a step ladder to get to the top shelves on one cabinet already, so maybe loosing some space wont be such a bad thing.

I don't know. so please, help me out here.

Kenny_McCormic
Kenny_McCormic PowerDork
7/13/15 12:55 p.m.

Paint it white? Assuming paint will stick to that insulation board, 2 cans will be more than enough.

Dusterbd13
Dusterbd13 UltraDork
7/13/15 12:56 p.m.

In reply to Mad_Ratel:

there's some slight color variation in tiles. my potato camera doesn't do the floor justice either. additionally, its getting dirty really, really quick. I am looking forward to getting it stripped, sealed, and waxed. that should take care of a lot of the initial color and shine issues.

the walls are actually old school whitewash. water/lime/salt mixed up in a bucket and rolled on. the walls were done a few months after we bought the house, so about a decade ago. I didn't think they looked all that bad, until after I did the floor. now I know better. so they will get a fresh coat in the near future. probably next week or two, after I decide on molding for the bottom. the beauty of whitewash is that it washes right off if you drip, and the whole shop cost $11 to paint the first time.

Dusterbd13
Dusterbd13 UltraDork
7/13/15 1:10 p.m.

In reply to Kenny_McCormic:

the stuff up there is full of gaps, and its falling apart from where its some kind of cardboard that is not surviving well with the humidity.

now, you gave me the thought of pricing some paneling/hardboard/etc to skim it and paint.

Mad_Ratel
Mad_Ratel HalfDork
7/13/15 2:43 p.m.

oH DONT get me wrong that floor looks amazing.

For the roofing. One of the things I looked into is a foil you stick up in attics to help with sound insulation and thermal. bonus, it's shiny silver... should help with reflecting light and help those above sleep when you are noisy. (radiant barrier is another term for it.)

no idea on price but has to be easier to install.

http://www.warehousefoil.com/

Dusterbd13
Dusterbd13 UltraDork
7/13/15 3:18 p.m.

Hmm....

Another thing to look at while wondering around Lowe's.

And the parts of the floor that look the best are the ones my daughter did.

Dusterbd13
Dusterbd13 UltraDork
7/20/15 11:11 a.m.

previous budget: 274

money spent: 50 at home depot for zep floor stripper, sealer, wax, and rayon mops. 3 for test piece of molding 20 for utility sink from yard sale

total: 347

so I spent the last week stripping, sealing, and waxing the floor. looks fantastic!! and makes the workspace so much brighter. [URL=http://s54.photobucket.com/user/dusterbd13/media/20150717_160949_zpsremowpst.jpg.html][/URL]

I also decided on doing the baseboard molding. will go the whole way down all the walls.

[URL=http://s54.photobucket.com/user/dusterbd13/media/20150717_162234_zpsm6ktnqip.jpg.html][/URL]

up next, I placed the tools and base cabinets where they are destined to go. two purposes were served by this. first, they are now out of my shed, and I can again get in there. second, it gives my motivation and a mental picture of what im going for here. I cant really see things in my head clearly enough to suit me, but once I get a baseline I can fill it out if that makes sense. anyway, there's some changes to make to these cabinets to get where I want to be, but that is to be expected when you get stuff for free. to the left, by the table saw, you see an opening with some scrap doors laying there. that space will turn into four drawers. the false drawer fronts you see immediately to thr right will become drawers. the single door that is laying there will turn to drawers. to the end, by the sink, you will see an angled in section. that will be straightened out and turned into drawers. then, 1.5 inch thick top will be installed, the sink recessed into the top, and new doors/drawer fronts made for the whole shebang. im excited about this. [URL=http://s54.photobucket.com/user/dusterbd13/media/20150717_162307_zpsjpmyjveb.jpg.html][/URL]

that's it for now. next is making a door to storage, and then starting on the ceiling and upper wall cabinets. and lighting. and electrical. and....

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