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NGTD
NGTD PowerDork
2/23/21 5:43 p.m.
Keith Tanner said:

Victory!

With such a close margin, you'll be very aware of the changes in range with the weather. That'll be interesting.

Yeah and the winter tires aren't helping.

This morning it was -2C and the engine ran 3 or 4 times to heat the cabin. At 3C this afternoon, no engine use at all. That's not a big swing. 

Hasbro (Forum Supporter)
Hasbro (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
2/23/21 7:18 p.m.

In reply to NGTD :

Thanks, 16' is what I'm thinking of doing. It looks like a lift might work in there.

 

NGTD
NGTD PowerDork
2/23/21 8:08 p.m.
Hasbro (Forum Supporter) said:

In reply to NGTD :

Thanks, 16' is what I'm thinking of doing. It looks like a lift might work in there.

 

A lift would be tight, I'd need more height.

obsolete
obsolete Reader
2/23/21 8:11 p.m.
NGTD said:

This morning it was -2C and the engine ran 3 or 4 times to heat the cabin. At 3C this afternoon, no engine use at all. That's not a big swing. 

There's a setting for the outside temperature threshold below which the engine will run to heat the car. Sounds like yours is set to 0C. You can probably set it lower if you want; mine is set to 15F.

NGTD
NGTD PowerDork
2/27/21 1:18 p.m.
Keith Tanner said:

 

One thing I've always wondered about the PHEVs is their highway manners. The ICE is sized with the expectation that it will have the battery to help out (or is it the other way around?). So how does it feel when the battery is no longer much help and you're still pounding along the 401 at triple digits?

Did a 350 km, mostly HWY run to pick up the kids yesterday. Squeezed 79 km out of it in EV mode. The remaining was in hybrid mode. 

I noticed no difference in performance running at 115km/hr. The gas engine was still helped out by the electric going up hills etc. Acceleration is still better than my 2.5L VW Rabbit and I averaged 54.7 mpg (US) on the trip. My Rabbit averages about 26.6 mpg(US) in the winter, so I still doubled that and a bit. The only difference seemed to be that the gas engine was the primary mover and the electric kicked into help. I am assuming that the retained capacity in the batteries after it kicks out of EV mode, plus some charging is used to help out the gas engine.

I'm still impressed.

NGTD
NGTD PowerDork
3/1/21 7:45 a.m.

So, I had a 400 km run where I never managed to get a full charge. That included:

- son driving around town for about 2 hours for practice

- run to drop of kids to ex (mostly highway)

- run to work this morning (mostly highway and mostly electric)

The result was about 56 mpg (US) on gas and 46 mpg (US) on the gas/electric equivalent scale.

NGTD
NGTD PowerDork
3/9/21 7:53 a.m.

Rollin up to about 3000 km so far, in almost 3 weeks. I've only filled up twice in 3 weeks and I used to fill up twice a week with the VW.

Car continues to impress - 2 tanks have averaged 3.19L/100 km but the one had the long highway run on straight hybrid mode. My commuting days I've been running about 2L/100km which translates to 118 mpg (usg).

dj06482 (Forum Supporter)
dj06482 (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
3/9/21 8:11 a.m.

With a long commute, not having to fill up a few times a week really does save some time and hassle!  It doesn't sound like much, but I found it to be a big deal when I could go all week without having to fill up.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner MegaDork
3/9/21 8:19 a.m.

You don't realize how generally unpleasant fuel stops are until you stop doing them :)

NGTD
NGTD PowerDork
3/16/21 12:51 p.m.

Coming up on a month of ownership. I love this thing.

Interesting developments:

  • Obviously the mileage variance can be huge:
    • Almost 2 week run with the commute on mostly electric - 180 mpg (Imp)
    • Long Highway run (600 km) to get kids - with a nasty 70+ km/h headwind - 53 mpg (Imp), but keep in mind that the Rabbit would have managed about 30 mpg in the same conditions.
    • Average mileage so far, 89.4 mpg. The Rabbit averaged 34 mpg, so close to triple. The more commuting will only bring this number up.
  • I love having a car that actually has modern sound gear - I've taken up listening to podcasts on the long drives. Apple CarPlay, But I love to use the energy monitor.
  • The Volt definitely has more rattles and stuff in it, or is it just that I notice because it's so quiet compared to the Rabbit? (I can't wait to get the winter tires off it, they howl pretty good)
  • I managed to get a great deal on used 240V home charger, all-weather mats and a custom cell phone mount from a guy who's Volt got totaled by ice falling off a semi. SCORE!
  • You actually change some of your habits
    • I've taken to walking to the grocery store in town, so that I don't unplug it and mess up the charging (I don't have the 240V charger hooked up yet). I can use the walks!
    • I've dropped my speed a bit on my commute to get back to the sweet spot for efficiency (90-95 km/h instead of 100km/h). 
  • For a guy my size, it's a bit of a tight fit but manageable. The centre tunnel has batteries running up it, so the console sits pretty high. 
Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
3/16/21 1:33 p.m.
Keith Tanner said:

You don't realize how generally unpleasant fuel stops are until you stop doing them :)

Right?! I leave my truck at home and take the LEAF as much as possible, even for some tasks the truck would really be better for. It's not that I can't afford the $5 in fuel the truck needs for a quick errand, it's that I hate having to do a second errand to get gas. 

NGTD
NGTD PowerDork
5/9/21 8:51 a.m.

Coming up on 3 months of ownership. I've put over 13,000 km on it. 
 

I've had a few "Shift to Park" messages lately, so a shifter replacement may be in my future. I'll take it to the dealer first but the warranty has expired so we'll see what they respond with. 
 

This has improved things!

 

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner MegaDork
5/10/21 9:27 a.m.

Now every journey will begin with a full load of electrons! Nice. Any difficulty in the installation? It looks like you might have had to add a dedicated panel.

Did you mount the charger inside for more flexibility - ie, you can park inside the garage as well?

NGTD
NGTD PowerDork
5/10/21 2:47 p.m.

In reply to Keith Tanner :

I needed power in the garage anyway, so I had a local electrician run a 240V panel out there. The garage has had no power in the 2 years that I owned the house. I've had to run everything off extension cords. 

Now I can finish wiring the garage 120V and put a 240V plug in for the welder!! 

I did mount the charger inside and then drilled a hole to run the cord outside. So yes I can also park inside. 

My FLO charger is programmed for no charging between 0700 and 1900 weekdays to avoid peak rates and I guess it also protects me from the remote possibility that someone try's to steal a charge. I can override that using the app, as the unit is connected to the internet. 

NGTD
NGTD PowerDork
12/2/21 11:25 a.m.

Haven't been here much to update, but this happened last week!!

50 kms in 9.5 months. I have doubled what the PO did in 3 years in less than 1 year. 

I remain quite happy with my Volt.

 

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner MegaDork
12/2/21 12:11 p.m.

Now that you've been through all the major seasons...how's the summer vs winter experience? How different is your commute with the hot vs cold weather?

warpedredneck
warpedredneck Reader
12/2/21 6:07 p.m.

In reply to NGTD :

I grew up in Fenelon Falls, now reside in Orillia.

NGTD
NGTD PowerDork
12/3/21 8:06 p.m.

In reply to Keith Tanner :

Completely different actually. Summer allows for plenty of range and absolutely no gas use while commuting. AC isn't hard on the battery, 

Winter - the car cycles the engine regardless, however to put it in perspective, I might use 2-3L a day vs the 12L or so the Rabbit used. I also try to avoid using the heat when I can, I just really try to avoid using much gas. It's like a game.

You find certain points where the gas is more efficient. For commuting the best range vs speed balance is 93 km/h. Slower doesn't gain much but bumping it even to 95 km/h starts to diminish the range. I'd love to see this with just a bit more range but that would steel space.

Putting on the snows definitely hurts the range too vs. the Michelin LRR tires on it and gives significantly more road noise. Car is very capable in the snow with decent winter tires. 

My commute in the winter uses up almost all my range vs. in the summer I have arrived at work with almost 40 km of range left. The 120V charger that I use at work typically will not get the car all the way back to full charge, if i deplete most of the battery. It takes almost 13hrs to do that. So I know that if I run the battery down, I am almost always going to run in Hybrid mode on the way home.

Love the car - even more than I thought I would!!

NGTD
NGTD PowerDork
12/3/21 8:10 p.m.
warpedredneck said:

In reply to NGTD :

I grew up in Fenelon Falls, now reside in Orillia.

Cool - I've only been in Fenelon for about 2 years.

 

obsolete
obsolete Reader
12/3/21 9:35 p.m.
NGTD said:

In reply to Keith Tanner :

The 120V charger that I use at work typically will not get the car all the way back to full charge, if i deplete most of the battery. It takes almost 13hrs to do that.

Does the Gen 2 have the 8A/12A option in the charging menu? My Gen 1 will only charge at 8A on 120V by default unless I manually bump it up to 12A.

NGTD
NGTD PowerDork
12/3/21 10:11 p.m.
obsolete said:
NGTD said:

In reply to Keith Tanner :

The 120V charger that I use at work typically will not get the car all the way back to full charge, if i deplete most of the battery. It takes almost 13hrs to do that.

Does the Gen 2 have the 8A/12A option in the charging menu? My Gen 1 will only charge at 8A on 120V by default unless I manually bump it up to 12A.

Yes - Gen 2 has the 8A/12A option, but it defaults to 8A. I have forgotten to move it to 12A only once.

It's pathetically slow at 8A.

NGTD
NGTD PowerDork
2/28/22 2:20 p.m.

Just passed 1 year of ownership - 63.513 kms (39,465 miles), averaging 105 mpg (USG).

It's a workhorse - daily commute, parts runs etc. (Gotta love hatchbacks). 

The car has been everything I thought it would be and more. I've also learned how to get the most of it. 

The day I bought it.

 

Utility - those are 4 265/70R17 Dunlops for the 4Runner!! Room to spare.

 

You can run on straight EV at -5C by using just the seat heater and steering wheel heater. You have to open the window just a bit to prevent fogging. 

 

What most cars look like in the winter up here :-( 

 

 

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