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03Panther SuperDork
4/14/21 11:12 p.m.

In reply to Antihero (Forum Supporter) :

I did get the FL 50 sold... we lost a ton of money on it during the 10 years and only 40K miles we owned it. But we DD'd the thing for a coulple years of that, and had a ball with it.

We've had this coach about 4 years, but only made 4 trips with it. They were great trips, and loved it.  We really were hoping for many more fun times with it. It is a great coach, just deserves to be with someone that can afford the 6 mpg! I no longer can, sadly, so we are looking for a good home for her!

03Panther UltraDork
5/13/21 10:37 p.m.

I am bringing this back to the top, since I have a current need to sell it soon-ish. I can make someone a good deal on the coach and the enclosed trailer, or sell the trailer separate, but a sale on either would help me and my neighbor out.

thashane New Reader
5/14/21 5:48 p.m.

Awesome coach, GLWS. 

For CA would need a non-commercial B for anything over 26klbs, and air brake endorsement. And any trailer rated at 10k+ requires a Class A.

03Panther UltraDork
5/14/21 6:53 p.m.

From the little I know about the states that require a non commercial - commercial license (I think TX calls it something silly like that) Its not really hard to get that. CA, well I couldn't say.

I will say that, although this rig, with AT, good steering, and good brakes, (it is air, but air brakes with self adjusting slack adjusters need no more upkeep than other brakes) does drive very well, some experience driving big stuff would be a HUGE recommendation! If someone thinks its to hard to get the legal endorsement, if required by their state, they might not have the right mindset to drive something this large safely. It does weigh 40.000 lbs empty. And has the turning radius of a ... well, 46' long rig with no pivot! A little planing ahead (OK, a lot) is required.

I do keep my Class A CDL current, even though I hope I never drive OTR again, and I don't actually need it to drive a big RV. I could easily have ended up passin' through a state were a overzealous cop didn't understand that I didn't need one to drive through "his" state, back when I still traveled all the time.

And any trailer rated at 10k+ requires a Class A

That might be why this trailer, although built strong enough, came with what I consider under rated tires. Loaded to the gills (with better tires) we had it just under 12K, but it would be easy for a normal person with a normal sized car to stay well under 10K.

thashane New Reader
5/14/21 8:56 p.m.

In reply to 03Panther :

It's very common in CA for a trailer with two 7k axles, to be derated to 9,990lbs by sticker/registration only. I think there is an RV clause that allows 5th wheels and horsetrailers up to 15k on a Class C. I'm CDLA too, and not familiar with the non-commercial, I would guess it's similar, but without the DOT physical? I would guess that most of the forum members wouldn't have much trouble upgrading their license, assuming they passed their C retest.

Irregardless, looks like a beautiful rig and you've still got another 40klbs for toys!

03Panther UltraDork
5/14/21 10:21 p.m.

In reply to thashane :

One of the ones that was high on our list while looking, had a 8' garage in the back, with a lift gate! The bed/bath was laid out poorly, or SHMBO would have gotton that one.

03Panther UltraDork
8/30/21 12:04 a.m.

For frenchyd 

I bought it from http://racingrvs.com

in OH and drove it home to Lower Alabam'.  One trip to my folks S of Richmond VA. Left VA for NE for a job, and back to AL by way of Branson MO. One more trip to VA and a trip Up to KY and home. Never avoided any towns during all that, but all that allowed us to stay clear of any true city's; we tend to as much as possible anyway!

I would advise sticking to "truck route"... being a former driver and pilot, I know you can handle her. At 46 1/2 feet from front bumper to the tail of the wheel lift, it's a lot of straight truck. I tend to swing a bit too wide, trying not to run inside back wheels over curbs, signs etc. ; but traffic has never seemed to mind me backing a couple times to make a tight one! 

40 to 46 don't sound like a lot, but I'm assuming your bus is a flat nose... and I'd say 10-12 foot longer wheelbase !

Any other questions, feel free to ask.

This one has a bit of history of colorful characters as prior owners, and you'd fit right in! (Myself included). You could build a long open trailer for the Jag, and a runabout, and make all the races in style. At 5 to 6 mpg, might not be able to afford a lot, but...smiley

03Panther UltraDork
8/30/21 12:09 a.m.

At 350hp (Cat 3176 10L 6cyl) with an Allison 4 speed slush box, she doesn't leap out in front of traffic, but she runs great, and does not block traffic either. Steers effortlessly, and great brakes. Air, with modern slack adjusters. Much nicer ride than the old semis we both "got" to drive years back! Back up camera, and a good stereo. 

03Panther UltraDork
11/12/21 8:19 p.m.

To bump this back to the top, it's is still for sale, and I have not touched any of the minor things that need to be addressed before raising the price frown

I have been let go from the full time night shift maintenance position I had for a while. Despite no income,  I do not seem to know the right way to get assistance, like many seem to, so I am extremely negotiable at this point! 
I did get a decent short term contract, but that comes with zero benefits, and since we can no longer travel like we used to, things will likely get very thin. At least the house is paid for laugh

I am truly blessed to have things, even when the money gets tight! Selling this was supposed to go towards retirement, but I'm blessed to have it for wherever it needs to go!

bearmtnmartin (Forum Supporter)
bearmtnmartin (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
11/12/21 8:48 p.m.

In reply to 03Panther :

I see a lot of tow rigs changing hands on the Facebook racing forums. Might be an option. Also there is a truck conversion forum on irv2. You could join if you have not and poke around.  Good luck with the challenges and hopefully you find a new owner.

yupididit PowerDork
11/12/21 8:52 p.m.

I forgot but what was the asking price for the enclosed? 

03Panther UltraDork
11/12/21 9:20 p.m.

In reply to bearmtnmartin (Forum Supporter) :

Thanks. I have a lot of little things (prolly considered more than little to average folks) to fix before I get aggressive about advertising. Will likely take it back to OH to racingRVs.com on consignment, when I ever get it nice enough. 
the short term contract is a 4 10s job, so even with the hr commute each way, I have a three day weekend laugh

The lack of benefits is a bit painful, but the timing of everything else is actually quite good!

03Panther UltraDork
11/12/21 9:24 p.m.

In reply to yupididit :

$8k for the 26' Extra height V nose. Does need a bit of love, but lots of nice upgrades as well. 
You in DC yet, or still in TX? Either way, I could prolly meet part way for a viewing, after we get pretty serious. 

Fueled by Caffeine
Fueled by Caffeine MegaDork
11/13/21 9:29 a.m.

This thing is amazing.  Way not what I need but kinda want it. So cool. 

this rv has a nicer newel post than my last house. 

03Panther UltraDork
11/13/21 1:46 p.m.

We are sad we had to stop traveling for work, right after getting this one! Have had to be realistic, and admit to ourselves, we will not be going back to that life. And at 6 mpg, we cannot afford to us this for long weekend mini vacations. Time to downsize. crying

it sure was an awesome rig, for the months we did use it. 
The entrance stairs and oak rails are fantastic. 

Cnc0329 New Reader
6/18/24 5:05 p.m.

In reply to 03Panther :

Is this still available?

03Panther PowerDork
6/18/24 7:16 p.m.

Well, we do still have it. We never got the chance to get aggressive about advertising, so a few have wanted, but never pulled the trigger. 

Never had the chance to fix it up more, either. 

Where are you located?

Indy - Guy
Indy - Guy UltimaDork
6/18/24 8:21 p.m.

In reply to 03Panther :

Moving this along, even at a discount, would go a long way to alleviating some of the financial struggles you've recently posted about.

03Panther PowerDork
6/18/24 10:18 p.m.

In reply to Indy - Guy :

So very true. And it gets looked at often. Sadly, it's about $10K (and another 10 in labor, paying someone) from being back to being $150,000 rig. 
Long before I started asking for charity (and being told to suck eggs, mostly, even by well meaning folks) I tried to get folks on here that can afford toys like that to help me out by buying it. No one wanted it. And, if my wife does get to come back out and travel with me to jobs, we could use it. It's why we bought it in the first place. 
But sure, without knowing the whole story (and we are not allowed to discuss that) it would look like an easy solution. 

If you'd like a $150,000 toy for half price (and a bit of elbow grease) come on out and take a look at it. 
And, if you'll note, I responded to a guy that revived a several year old thread, for his first post ever. In case he might be serious. 
I've always given a lot of myself without having to be forced. "Someone" forcing me to pay for what doesn't even go to the poor, has put me in the poor house , and asking for charity. I'm rather embarrassed about that. Yes, I'm very poor, and nothing for retirement. But im healthy, don't skip meals, don't have to walk for transportation, and have a roof over my head. 
Or maybe I read too much into that, and you thought I was not smart enough to think of it? 

oops, I discussed it anyway. Might have the first "for sale" thread to get locked! 

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