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Nick_440
Nick_440 New Reader
12/16/19 1:52 p.m.

This is my first post on this forum, so bear with me please.

I'm looking drooling over a 1965 imperial Crown sedan on craigslist, for a daily,  and would like to know what you all think of rallycrossing it until I buy/build a rally car, probably NASA rally open 2wd light (hopefully a 30ish ford with 3 850cc snowmobile engines, brinn 2 speed, quick change rear end, mx5 front suspension and steering, if I can afford it, a chevette, e30, 1st gen neon, etc if I can't).

anyway I'm wondering if I should rallycross it and if I do decide to what easy improvements I can make, tires, suspension, etc.

NickD
NickD PowerDork
12/16/19 1:57 p.m.

A rallycross Imperial? A stage rally '30s Ford with multiple snowmobile engines and Miata suspension? You are our kind of insane.

Nick_440
Nick_440 New Reader
12/16/19 2:03 p.m.

Thank's for the complement, like Waylon said, I've always been cravy. now I'm looking at a 61 imperial, for the fins, plus imagine this sliding around in the dirt.  1

Nick_440
Nick_440 New Reader
12/16/19 2:05 p.m.

you know what, thank you very much NickD I'm going to buy a 60's Imperial and rallycross it, pictures as soon as soon as I do

NickD
NickD PowerDork
12/16/19 2:10 p.m.

For Rallycross, do not use steel wheels, you will tear the centers out of them, especially on a car that heavy. 

JesseWolfe
JesseWolfe Reader
12/16/19 2:13 p.m.

That's a very LARGE car for rallycross, longer and more heavy than many 1/2 trucks, Rallycross leans more towards small nibble cars.  I doubt its ability to turn corners very well.  It might be an exercise in frustration, it could be fun though too.

Nick_440
Nick_440 New Reader
12/16/19 2:21 p.m.

Thanks again, NickD for the advice. 

I do realize that it is a bit large for rallyx, but Iam planning on a smaller car once I sell my volvo 740.

noddaz
noddaz SuperDork
12/16/19 2:25 p.m.

Tuck some 31/10.5 tires under it and have at it!

EvanB
EvanB MegaDork
12/16/19 2:27 p.m.

That would be terrible for rallycross, you should definitely do it. 

Nick_440
Nick_440 New Reader
12/16/19 2:32 p.m.

I think I'm going to like this forum, Ive been on it a half hour and you guys are already great

Jay_W
Jay_W Dork
12/16/19 2:47 p.m.

A pal of mine rallycrossed his S600 and scored himself Extra Special Bonus Points if he sucessfully knocked down both the inside and outside cones at the same time. I bet that finned wonder there would do that trick just as well...

ebonyandivory
ebonyandivory PowerDork
12/16/19 2:47 p.m.

In reply to Nick_440 :

Yeah, I joined after seeing Yugo-worship and Saturn builds.

 

79rex
79rex Reader
12/16/19 2:50 p.m.

the imperial sliding in dirt?  YES YES YES YES.  

Nick_440
Nick_440 New Reader
12/16/19 2:54 p.m.

this vintage of imperials have 30's from the factory, so I can fit some pretty meaty tires under it. 

should I run mud terrains or snow tires? keep in mind that this will also be my daily, I have tire chains, and here in ND there are a lot of muddy dirt roads. 

Nick_440
Nick_440 New Reader
12/16/19 3:00 p.m.

That s600 in the dirt would be cool af

_
_ Dork
12/16/19 3:18 p.m.

Is anyone else excited to see Miata suspension under a vintage hot rod? I'm not sure how this will work, but I really want to see it happen. 
 

also, 3 Snowmobile engines! Where have you been all of our lives?

stuart in mn
stuart in mn MegaDork
12/16/19 3:26 p.m.

I think it would be a waste of a good car, but those old Imperials were built like tanks - there was a reason they were banned from demolition derbies.

Nick_440
Nick_440 New Reader
12/16/19 3:28 p.m.

yeah the snowmobile engines I'm thinking about using are really trick, lets hope I can afford it. plus the 2 speed only weighs 45 bs, I think i can build this thing under 1200 lbs.

as to where I've been: hooning cars, washing dishes, and working on robots in Rockford Il. I moved up to Williston ND when I got out of high school in October and now I'm making enough to race.

Shadeux
Shadeux Reader
12/16/19 3:42 p.m.

This is a terrible terrible idea.

When are you going to start? laugh

californiamilleghia
californiamilleghia Dork
12/16/19 3:45 p.m.

Moonshiner  tribute.........DO IT

Nick_440
Nick_440 New Reader
12/16/19 3:46 p.m.

as soon as possible; hopefully soon enough to rallycross the imperial in the spring and the 30 ford next spring

Knurled.
Knurled. MegaDork
12/16/19 3:52 p.m.
JesseWolfe said:

That's a very LARGE car for rallycross, longer and more heavy than many 1/2 trucks, Rallycross leans more towards small nibble cars.  I doubt its ability to turn corners very well.  It might be an exercise in frustration, it could be fun though too.

It probably would not physically fit through the gates on most courses.

 

I have been on courses with my RX-7 where I was driving on the cones on both sides.

slowbird
slowbird Dork
12/16/19 3:56 p.m.

This sounds like a hilarious idea. Will it be fast? Maybe not. Will it be fun? I bet it will.

Bring the event organizers some donuts or something, maybe you can bribe them to widen the gates a few inches. laugh

NickD
NickD PowerDork
12/16/19 4:03 p.m.
_ said:

Is anyone else excited to see Miata suspension under a vintage hot rod? I'm not sure how this will work, but I really want to see it happen. 
 

I've had evil ideas for a Track T roadster body dropped on a Miata rollerskate, maybe dress the 1.6L up as some sort of never-was DOHC-converted Model A engine screaming through ITBs and a lake pipe.

NickD
NickD PowerDork
12/16/19 4:05 p.m.

Whooooaaaaa, that V4 is one bad unit. I want one in the back of an X1/9 (or the front of a Saab Sonnett!). Thank you for opening my eyes to that thing.

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