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DeadSkunk
DeadSkunk SuperDork
6/4/14 2:13 p.m.

Are there any bolt-on , manual transmission options for the 1UZ-FE engines, or would I be forced to create/fabricate an adapter plate or bell housing to use whatever manual I can find ?

Strike_Zero
Strike_Zero SuperDork
6/4/14 2:17 p.m.

Make an adapter and use W58 or R154 long witht the bellhousing from the auto.

I think the plans for an adapter are readily available on the web.

OneJay
OneJay New Reader
6/4/14 2:44 p.m.

http://www.quantum-auto.com/adapters.html

Hungary Bill
Hungary Bill Dork
6/4/14 3:05 p.m.

Guerillamotive has a 1uz to Audi transaxle adapter I was thinking of using

http://guerillamotive.com/wordpress/?page_id=183

What's it going into?

stafford1500
stafford1500 Reader
6/4/14 3:16 p.m.

Castlemain rod shop in Austrailia have a 1UZ to GM style Muncie bellhousing. That opens up a lot of gearbox options.

Hungary Bill
Hungary Bill Dork
6/4/14 3:19 p.m.
stafford1500 wrote: Castlemain rod shop in Austrailia have a 1UZ to GM style Muncie bellhousing. That opens up a lot of gearbox options.

oh noz.

You should not have told me that.

BRB

Hungary Bill
Hungary Bill Dork
6/4/14 3:21 p.m.

Does anyone have $515 and a 1UZ I can borrow?

DeadSkunk
DeadSkunk SuperDork
6/4/14 3:31 p.m.
Hungary Bill wrote: Guerillamotive has a 1uz to Audi transaxle adapter I was thinking of using http://guerillamotive.com/wordpress/?page_id=183 What's it going into?

I'm looking at drive train options for a second generation Corolla.

stafford1500
stafford1500 Reader
6/4/14 3:33 p.m.
Hungary Bill wrote:
stafford1500 wrote: Castlemain rod shop in Austrailia have a 1UZ to GM style Muncie bellhousing. That opens up a lot of gearbox options.

oh noz.

You should not have told me that.

BRB

Your welcome and I'm sorry at the same time...

Hungary Bill
Hungary Bill Dork
6/4/14 3:40 p.m.
DeadSkunk wrote:
Hungary Bill wrote: Guerillamotive has a 1uz to Audi transaxle adapter I was thinking of using http://guerillamotive.com/wordpress/?page_id=183 What's it going into?

I'm looking at drive train options for a second generation Corolla.

so I guess the audi-transaxle idea is out the window

UNLESS!

Unless you wanted to have a MR-Corolla!

Off-subject:

I promise here and now that if I EVER change the engine in my Impala I am going to stuff a Toyota V8 in there. My god what an awesome idea!

dculberson
dculberson UltraDork
6/4/14 3:43 p.m.

No bolt-on, all need adapters. Cost of adapters ranges from hand cut from scrap steel to $500+.

Hungary Bill, I could help you get a super cheap 1uz if you were local. But right now, no, I have nothing on hand. That might change in a few months.

Hungary Bill
Hungary Bill Dork
6/4/14 3:51 p.m.

I'm only most of the way across the country from you, but I know someone who might be moving this way soon (who currently lives in Pennsylvania). Maybe I can get him to grab one on his way to WA

otherwise shipping might kill us

Am I correct in thinking the 1uz was never mated to a manual transmission from the factory?

Strike_Zero
Strike_Zero SuperDork
6/4/14 5:45 p.m.

In reply to Hungary Bill:

Correct.

Dr. Hess
Dr. Hess MegaDork
6/4/14 6:21 p.m.

There's whole web sites devoted to this. If I recall, if you can find a transmission that was in one of the Toyota big trucks behind the 2UZ or 3UZ motors, or whatever the V8 designation that has "UZ" in it, the bell housing bolt pattern is the same.

Easy way is to buy the adapter.

edwardh80
edwardh80 New Reader
6/4/14 8:23 p.m.
Dr. Hess wrote: whatever the V8 designation that has "UZ" in it, the bell housing bolt pattern is the same.

This is correct. The http://www.v-eight.com forum has a wealth of info on those engines, including some pretty interesting transmission combinations.

DeadSkunk
DeadSkunk SuperDork
6/4/14 8:36 p.m.

If I do this it will be for a Challenge car and adapters cost bucks, so I need another solution or learn to fab my own.

Dr. Hess
Dr. Hess MegaDork
6/4/14 8:51 p.m.

An excerpt from 1999, before the WWW's took off, posted in alt.kitcar or something:

Frederic Breitwieser said: .78" Aluminum plate, machined to match RWD block bell housing, CAD diagram taken from the "Buick Power Source", available at your local GM dealer for less than ten bucks. The crank hole in this adaptor should be drilled to 11/16", the diameter of the Audi input shaft. Once buick side is done, shove on front of Audi transaxle so input shaft sticks into the crank hole, adjust for level, and center punch all the transmission mounting holes. Drill in your press, tap appropriately (1/2" I believe), disassemble bellhousing/diff case off the 013B transaxle, bolt to adaptor plate, then trace inside with a permanent marker. Remove housing, drill pilot hole, and cut out the inside tracing for about 5 hours depending on how many blades you break . Take Audi flywheel to machine show, have them redrill it for the buick FWD flywheel holes (bring your flexplate or crank for reference as well as your Buick power Source book) and you will spend about $150 on this operation, and have it balanced to ZERO. Make a 3/8" thick spacer that matches the Buick block with a large enough cutout for the flexplate (13" if I remember). Then, bolt the engine / thin adaptor /thick adaptor together using grade 8 bolts. Use your tig welder or your torch (I used alumalloy rods and a propane torch - didn't warp anything, and good to 40k psi) and attach the thin plate to the thick plate. There you go, instant adaptor for the two units. Now, remove everything, and put on the flexplate, which is balanced from GM to match the engine's rotating assembly, bolt on your re-drilled Audi flywheel, bolt on the adaptors, and you should clear the flexplate and flywheel perfectly :) Then, drill into the crank and install an Audi pilot bushing into the Audi flywheel, and bolt the transaxle to the plate. Done :)
DeadSkunk
DeadSkunk SuperDork
6/5/14 6:32 a.m.

Easy-peasy. I can do that this morning with my 4" disc grinder, wood router, and mig welder. A miracle would help some,too.

stafford1500
stafford1500 Reader
6/5/14 6:43 a.m.

If you want to get specific to the UZ family of engines, try lextreme.com. They have a very deep forum there that includes users from around the world doing interesting/crazy stuff with UZ's. If it can be done, they have a cheap and an expensive way to do it listed...

I have a few posts over there myself (my project has been in progress since 2000).

DeadSkunk
DeadSkunk SuperDork
6/5/14 7:09 a.m.

In reply to stafford1500: Well, I know what I'll be doing for the next several hours.

singleslammer
singleslammer SuperDork
6/5/14 8:29 a.m.

There was a guy who sold the CAD file to make a 1uz Bell housing bolt to a Toyota W series (and siblings). Same for the R series. I think he only wanted like $25 for the file and then have it cut from steel for a total of around $100. Not bad. I just haven't found a need yet.

oldeskewltoy
oldeskewltoy SuperDork
6/5/14 6:19 p.m.

DeadSkunk
DeadSkunk SuperDork
6/5/14 8:48 p.m.

In reply to oldeskewltoy:
Do you know what the details on that are?

oldeskewltoy
oldeskewltoy SuperDork
6/5/14 9:27 p.m.
DeadSkunk wrote: In reply to oldeskewltoy: Do you know what the details on that are?

comes from this thread.... http://hachiroku.net/forums/showthread.php?t=36056

"XNC" in that thread is also swapping the UZ into a Celica, he is close to me

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon MegaDork
6/6/14 7:59 a.m.

Dammit. Why do you people keep DOING this to me? MUST... RETAIN ... 13BT!@!#!*&^1 I have a R154 (no it's not for sale! ) and I keep threatening to do a 1UZ swap in the Jensenator.

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