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mndsm
mndsm SuperDork
6/20/11 12:21 p.m.
stumpmj wrote: Locost!

I approve of this post.

Stealthtercel
Stealthtercel Reader
6/20/11 5:23 p.m.

Thanks, Travis!

LopRacer
LopRacer Reader
6/20/11 7:52 p.m.

mmm 11dollar car, I wonder if you might find the engine for slightly less and have a little better budget. Would be epic to see a Merc v12 powered challenge car.

chaparral
chaparral Reader
7/23/12 9:15 p.m.

If 389 hp and $2000 doesn't entice you enough, how does 500 and $4000?

The 2004 S600 engine sells for that little on car-part.

I'm wondering what needs 500 horsepower and can't get there otherwise.

Knurled
Knurled SuperDork
7/23/12 9:39 p.m.
thestig99 wrote: Something else big, heavy, and smooth. I'm picturing old school Mercedes...

The 107 chassis had sixes in them in Europe. (I did an engine remove-n-reseal in a grey market 280SE. OMG that car was slow) They had V8s in them in the US. A twelve should fit.

For added effect, twin CIS must be used.

DoctorBlade
DoctorBlade SuperDork
7/23/12 10:03 p.m.

This brings up all sorts of evil ideas.

B430
B430 Reader
7/23/12 11:06 p.m.
mguar wrote: In reply to chaparral: At 9000 rpm a V12 is moving it's pistons about as fast as most V8's at 6000 rpm.. So the stress on a V12 is trivial..Properly maintained a V12 will outlive a V8 by a significant amount.. .

Doesnt each piston still move up and down each revolution of the crank? I don't see how with the stroke being equal the pistons move at any different speed no matter how many cylinders you have.

DoctorBlade
DoctorBlade SuperDork
7/23/12 11:18 p.m.
At 9000 rpm a V12 is moving it's pistons about as fast as most V8's at 6000 rpm.

Dude what? A V12 moving it's pistons at Nine Thousand Revolutions Per Minute? The engine would be flinging those pistons faster than a V8 at 6000RPM.

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac MegaDork
7/23/12 11:24 p.m.

Got it. So a V16 at 12000rpms is only moving as fast as a V8 at 6000rpms.

Makes perfect sense.

I'm just mad that my inline 4 at 3000rpms is moving as fast as a V8 at 6000rpms. I'm sure it's on the verge of blowing up since i rev it to 7600rpms, the equivalent of a V8 at 15200rpms. Can't wait to launch a piston through the hood.

Math is fun!

driver109x
driver109x HalfDork
7/24/12 7:15 a.m.

Drop it in a 50's Chevy or Ford pick up truck...

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH PowerDork
7/24/12 7:49 a.m.

Build a big custom 30s-ish land yacht. The power vs. size makes it look like a bad deal for performance.

4cylndrfury
4cylndrfury UltimaDork
7/24/12 8:09 a.m.

so now we have to start announcing our love for pies in actual car threads? what the crap

Sky_Render
Sky_Render Reader
7/24/12 8:41 a.m.

Would it fit in a Miata?

How about a Fox-body Mustang?

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac MegaDork
7/24/12 9:19 a.m.
Sky_Render wrote: Would it fit in a Miata? How about a Fox-body Mustang?

IN for Merc V12 Fox Body!!!!

Type Q
Type Q Dork
7/24/12 11:24 a.m.

How about Jeep Cherokee or Wagoneer like Bill Harrah?

Gasoline
Gasoline HalfDork
7/24/12 12:03 p.m.

This had a twin turbo V12 swap under the hood:

scardeal
scardeal Dork
7/24/12 12:26 p.m.

This needs to be in a mid-engined locost....

imirk
imirk HalfDork
7/24/12 12:52 p.m.
Gasoline wrote: This had a twin turbo V12 swap under the hood:

Hubbba Hubba! Is that a replica body? Dunno If I could screw with the sanctity of a real 300SL, but if it was otherwise worthless.. other than you know just it's merits as a car not a history piece,

Humm aparently Mercedes persecutes replicas with some fervor. ok off to find a W198 in rough shape...Right...

dean1484
dean1484 UltraDork
7/24/12 1:09 p.m.
neon4891 wrote:
JoeyM wrote:
ls1 fiero wrote: Anything very old school like a T Bucket or even better create your own 30s Grand Prix replica.
One of the Lemons judges claimed a v-12 mercedes s600 race car and put the engine in a Model A
I hate claim rules.

For some reason that exact car is on my short list of cars I want to own.

I am not a huge fan of the claim rule either but I completely understand the need for it. They should make the claim rule such that you have to claim the car BEFORE the race (you still get to race it) or you have the option not to race.

If I had the motor I think I would put it in a boat. Somthing like this. Fresh water use only

Gasoline
Gasoline HalfDork
7/24/12 1:14 p.m.
imirk wrote:
Gasoline wrote: This had a twin turbo V12 swap under the hood:
Hubbba Hubba! Is that a replica body? Dunno If I could screw with the sanctity of a real 300SL, but if it was otherwise worthless.. other than you know just it's merits as a car not a history piece, Humm aparently Mercedes persecutes replicas with some fervor. ok off to find a W198 in rough shape...Right...

Real 1961 190SL. Chopped, lengthened, widened etc.

http://www.hotrodscustomstuff.com/projects/mercedes-bent.html

Steve Chryssos
Steve Chryssos Associate Publisher
7/24/12 1:20 p.m.

Make it so....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNlAVip_J9w&NR

more: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0pHeiHZeTU&NR

and: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0wYeKG7h_c

Gasoline
Gasoline HalfDork
7/24/12 1:27 p.m.
Steve Chryssos wrote: Make it so....

1994 Mercedes BENZ S600 - $1600 (AUSTELL)

I have for sale a 1994 Mercedes Benz S600 V12 black on black it needs transmission work the reverse went out engine is in good shape runs strong has 167,000 miles on it ,it's a beautiful car. BUT NEEDS WORK nice car to restore.

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/wat/cto/3101952073.html

yamaha
yamaha Reader
7/24/12 2:02 p.m.

That big bitch appears to even have amg wheels......

dculberson
dculberson Dork
7/24/12 2:03 p.m.
neon4891 wrote:
JoeyM wrote:
ls1fiero wrote: Anything very old school like a Tbucket or even better create your own 30s Grand Prix replica.
One of the Lemons judges claimed a v-12 mercedes s600 race car
I hate claim rules.

Well, to be fair the Lemons claim rule is only there in name. It can only be exercised by Jay Lamm himself, and the S600 team actually begged Jay to claim their car. He did it basically as a publicity stunt and didn't really claim it. The only other time in the history of the series that he's used it was to "claim" the ultra cheaty engine from the Pratt & Miller Camaro (somehow they "found" the parts to build a 500hp race motor) but even then he just had them put it on a shelf in their shop for him "some day." Meaning he didn't really claim that, either..

I agree with you that most race series have E36 M3ty claim rules. But Lemons' claim rule is fine, at least until Jay starts to go mad with power and claims everything.

MadScientistMatt
MadScientistMatt SuperDork
7/24/12 6:55 p.m.

While a mid engined kit car has some definite appeal, how about a Porsche 924? Great chassis that needs (and can handle) more power, low price, and a V12 924 is even more unexpected than the Spanish Inquisition.

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