kazoospec
kazoospec UberDork
9/13/20 7:30 p.m.

About 12-15 yards, not sure I'd want to be that close with anything other than a .22.

Vracer111
Vracer111 HalfDork
9/14/20 4:48 a.m.

Not exactly a 'boom stick' but I just went ahead and ordered a newly released 'Benjamin' Cayden (.22cal PCP rifle with 12 shot rotary mag, and side-lever action.) Have a Meprolight M21 holographic reflex sight I will temporarily use until I get a proper scope for it later (probably a Hawke Airmax 4-12x40). Guess it's more of a 'woosh stick'... was thinking of getting a 22LR, but always wanted a good .22cal air-rifle and don't feel like going through the trouble right now of sourcing a .22LR rifle I would actually want along with more .22LR ammo. So much easier to just buy a precision air rifle right now...

My boom stick is an Savage 10FP in .308 WIN with Manners MCS-T4 stock, Precision Armament M11 muzzle brake, and Vortex Diamondback 4-16 scope... it's a 1/2 MOA capable tack driver.

kazoospec
kazoospec UberDork
9/14/20 8:50 p.m.

So I'm showing Kazoo Jr. the new .22 next to the carry piece so I can explain to him why I bought it as a trainer and he comes up with "Sweet!  Now you can dual wield."  It's moments like these you know you raised them right.

Wally (Forum Supporter)
Wally (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
9/15/20 8:22 a.m.

Again 9 pages in all the the "Dads" missed the obvious joke: 

 


 

Downrange, the right direction is downrange. How disappointing.

kazoospec
kazoospec UberDork
9/15/20 10:01 a.m.

In reply to Wally (Forum Supporter) :

Wow.  We are slipping around here.

barefootskater
barefootskater UltraDork
9/15/20 10:14 a.m.

In reply to kazoospec :

The way I figure, if we're here, we've already slipped. The real baffling part is that it took Wally 9 pages to make the joke. Usually his comedic timing is pretty immediate. Strange times. 

03Panther
03Panther HalfDork
9/16/20 2:14 a.m.

I'm trying to talk SHMBO into the M&P 22, since it is simular to her ez... but since we paide less for the ez, no luck so far. Fortunatly we got a lot of rounds for the ez before they started making them from unobtainum. But 22 still better plan

Antihero (Forum Supporter)
Antihero (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
9/16/20 8:47 a.m.
03Panther said:

I'm trying to talk SHMBO into the M&P 22, since it is simular to her ez... but since we paide less for the ez, no luck so far. Fortunatly we got a lot of rounds for the ez before they started making them from unobtainum. But 22 still better plan

The wife has an EZ too, I might try to sell her on a 22 version but she's pretty happy with her 1911 22

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
9/16/20 8:49 a.m.

OK, since this is an all inclusive thread here.... PSA has their 10.5" pistol kits at $399, and a local shop has stripped lowers for $49. Any reason I shouldn't pressure the wife on this and just build one?

bigdaddylee82
bigdaddylee82 UberDork
9/16/20 10:00 a.m.

In reply to bobzilla :

I'm usually the last one to tell someone not to buy a gun, but I put a couple mags through my nephew's similar AR pistol, with a Shockwave style blade.  I found it very uncomfortable to shoot.  I'm a slightly over wight (according to my BMI) 6' tall 200 lb, fella.

If you want something, and you can find it in stock, don't dally, demand is far surpassing supply for just about everything firearms related.

If you decide you don't like it, you can probably put a few hundred rounds through it, and still make a profit on it on Armslist come late October.

Justjim75
Justjim75 Dork
9/16/20 3:55 p.m.

In reply to bigdaddylee82 :

Same height and weight, I dont feel overweight, dont see how that even makes sense.  I think the tables are flawed.  Especially since i wear 36 waist and that includes room for a doublestack 9mm handgun

bgkast (Forum Supporter)
bgkast (Forum Supporter) PowerDork
9/16/20 4:53 p.m.
bobzilla said:

OK, since this is an all inclusive thread here.... PSA has their 10.5" pistol kits at $399, and a local shop has stripped lowers for $49. Any reason I shouldn't pressure the wife on this and just build one?

I can't think of one! I just bought a stripped lower and all the parts to build a carbine chambered in 7.62x39 for my first ar build. Any interest in a build thread?

Justjim75
Justjim75 Dork
9/16/20 5:28 p.m.

In reply to bgkast (Forum Supporter) :

AR based 7.62x39?  Yes, yes I am interested to know how that works out

bigdaddylee82
bigdaddylee82 UberDork
9/16/20 5:39 p.m.

In reply to Justjim75 :

Yeah, I don't feel so much over weight either, especially since I've lost a little over 30 lbs since last December, but the APRN I've been seeing at the sleep clinic, mentioned I was over weight.  I thought it was odd, so I looked at a BMI calculator, and sure enough, at 6' I need to be 183 lbs to be in the "normal" range.  I'm pretty happy where I'm at now though, regardless of what the sleep nurse or a chart says.

Only on GRM would we be talking about BMI and firearms in the same thread. laugh

 

In reply to bgkast:

I'm all for it!  I've got everything needed to stick a full size Uzi together now and I've had the makings for a Beowulf in the safe for about 3 years, build threads could be motivation to finally do it.

I like having everything here on GRM, a few years ago some of our members had made a firearms/hunting focused forum, several GRMers joined, and a few of us added content, but it died and vanished in less than a year.

barefootskater
barefootskater UltraDork
9/16/20 6:22 p.m.

In reply to bigdaddylee82 :

This is a pretty cool place. Definitely the best forum I've ever been on, between the civility, inclusion and simply vast knowledge base. I've even seen and spoken with a few on zoom/phone, which is a pretty unique forum experience, at least for me. That's why I asked the question and started this thread. I got genuinely helpful and unbiased advice, which is uncommon for car stuff, and unheard of for something as "contentious" as weapons. I halfway expected it to get locked immediately to prevent any E36 M3show and would have totally understood if that happened.

Now I'm just crossing fingers that this years mystery Christmas box is stuffed with cheap fmj .308. 

03Panther
03Panther Dork
9/16/20 7:46 p.m.

A friend is a physical therapist, and workout nut. She is built! The BMI chart says she is OBESE!!! Says I should weigh 165 lbs at most. I've been 165 when younger, and I looked like a stick. No thank you.

Now, back to your previously schulded program...

barefootskater
barefootskater UltraDork
9/16/20 8:28 p.m.

Despite feeling pretty poopy and not having any energy, I made it out to a range today. Shooting these:

standing at the target, q45 as a bench.

Scale:


 

grouping:


i only shot ten, partly because $.86 a piece, and partly because with 100 paces out and back after each shot it just took forever. I think the sights are as good as can be expected. The orange dot is only 1" and a can hardly even see it that far out. Still, the gun is fun. Thumpy. 

And this is funny. My wife bought my ear muffs back when I was drumming in the basement. They're pink. Makes the big bad assault rifle less scary. 

ultraclyde (Forum Supporter)
ultraclyde (Forum Supporter) UltimaDork
9/16/20 8:42 p.m.

Nice. Maybe a pair of binoculars would cut down on the walking?

barefootskater
barefootskater UltraDork
9/16/20 8:53 p.m.

In reply to ultraclyde (Forum Supporter) :

The walking isn't so bad. I grabbed a handful of brass (mostly .22) on each trip out and back. That goes in the recycle bucket and should be worth $60-70 when it's full. And honestly I can use the exercise. 
Also, binoculars powerful enough to see the bullet holes that far away would cost as much as a decent scope... mostly just wanting to get used to the gun and iron sights and maybe put a couple hundred through before installing a scope. As it is, I'd be comfortable shooting at an elk at that distance, at least with a decent rest. I really need to give my .22 a good cleaning and take it out and see what I can do with that at the same distance. For fun. 

matthewmcl (Forum Supporter)
matthewmcl (Forum Supporter) Reader
9/16/20 9:07 p.m.

In reply to barefootskater :

How close are you to having reloading gear?

barefootskater
barefootskater UltraDork
9/16/20 9:11 p.m.

In reply to matthewmcl (Forum Supporter) :

Not before challenge. If I have money left over from my travel budget I think that's what I plan to buy. Or if the mustang sells soon and I don't bargain too poorly. More likely end of the year. My fun budget is pretty thin on apprentice plumbing wages right now. Such is life. 

03Panther
03Panther Dork
9/16/20 9:35 p.m.

Not the best backdrop for a target...

barefootskater
barefootskater UltraDork
9/16/20 9:52 p.m.

In reply to 03Panther :

That pic was just for scale. The target was 100y behind me from the perspective of that photo. The car was my bench/rest. 
Besides. The car was free, so other than the hike home it would hardly be a loss. 

matthewmcl (Forum Supporter)
matthewmcl (Forum Supporter) Reader
9/16/20 9:58 p.m.

In reply to barefootskater :

Okay, I am at a bigger screen so I can see your target more clearly.  With a little work we can get all of those rounds in the 8 ring.

You have a very straight line on the diagonal. The length of that line is you. The width of that line is what your rifle can do. I am going to assume you are right handed, correct me if I am in error.

Up to the left and down to the right are both trigger issues. I am going to give two things to do at the range, and one to work on at home.

At the range: Breathing and follow through.

Breathing: Your body and mind are not very good at holding half a breath.  Your body will be less wiggly, and more able to just sit still, with your breath out. Let your full natural breath out, and check your sight picture, if good, squeeze the trigger. Based on what I am seeing on your target, I think you have this pretty well, but it is important, so I am making sure.

Follow through: It looks like you are coming off of the trigger way too quickly. Jerking your finger off of the trigger will do up and left. When the gun goes bang, hold the trigger back, Breathe in, breathe out, then release the trigger. Slow is smooth, smooth is fast.

At home: dry fire practice.  I think you have a blend of pulling the trigger a little too quickly and some flinch.  Dry fire helps both (and is free). 

MAKE SURE YOU HAVE NO AMMO ANYWHERE IN THE ROOM YOU ARE IN. This is just a safety thing to train your brain to.  It cuts down the possibility of a negligent discharge and it frees up your brain cells from thinking about it. This second part seems small, but it will help you focus.

With your unloaded rifle (check with both eye and finger; your family is in the building), line up at something small across the room or garage. An outlet is too big, but the ground screw in the middle is good. You are going to practice a slow squeeze og the trigger, slowly building up to the breaking point. As you are first learning this rifle's trigger, this may take a couple of breaths.  Squeeze only when the sight picture is correct and your breath is out. If you need to breathe, do so, but hold the trigger with unchanging pressure. Eventually you will get a click. This won't hurt your rifle at all. You can get snap caps (or make some) if you want to practice the manipulation, but your rifle does not need them. Two things are happening. One, you are learning to slowly and smoothly manipulate the trigger. Two, your mind is getting used to that click with nothing happening to your shoulder.  As you get used to the rifle with no kick, it is easier to "take it" with no resistance when you are shooting.  Let the physics happen, when it is done, then you can react.

There are many other skills to learn, but focus on these bits for now.

For the car tie in, imagine you are trail breaking truly at the limit in a turn. Any quick action is going to upset the car. On the gas too fast, off the gas too fast, off the brake too fast, more brake, steering input, anything

03Panther
03Panther Dork
9/16/20 9:58 p.m.

Just being funny. I was scrolling by fast to get up to last read, and had to back up for a double take!

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