LS_BC8
LS_BC8 New Reader
11/20/20 2:42 p.m.

Lateley the C&O 2-6-6-2 1309 has been touted as the last domestic steam locomotive for domestic use built by Baldwin. I thought the 610 at TVRM was the last domestic locomotive built.

NickD
NickD UltimaDork
11/20/20 3:01 p.m.
LS_BC8 said:

Lateley the C&O 2-6-6-2 1309 has been touted as the last domestic steam locomotive for domestic use built by Baldwin. I thought the 610 at TVRM was the last domestic locomotive built.

It's confusing. #1309 was the last built by a major manufacturer (Alco, Lima, Baldwin) in '49 for a common carrier railroad. TVRM was built by Baldwin in '52, which was pretty late, but it was built for the US Army Transportation Corp. I believe the last steam locomotive built in the US for a US customer was an 0-8-0 that Norfolk & Western built in '53, but that was built by N&W at their Roanoke shops, not by a manufacturer. Sadly that engine wasn't preserved. Baldwin actually built a batch of steam locomotives in '54 and '55 for India, which is amazing, because Baldwin left the locomotive market entirely in '56. 

The last Alco steam locomotive was Pittsburgh & Lake Erie A2 Berkshire #947, which was part of a 10 locomotive order placed by Paul Kiefer for the New York Central that NYC cancelled. The 7 locomotives that were partially constructed were kept and foisted off on P&LE, who wanted diesels.

The last Lima steam locomotive was Nickel Plate Berkshire #779. NKP actually continued to try and market a 4-8-6 locomotive afterwards, but was unable to find any buyers.

slowbird
slowbird SuperDork
11/20/20 6:06 p.m.

I've purchased various crappy DC locomotives and now I feel the compulsive need to buy a bunch of expensive, fancy DCC locomotives with sound chips...

Not sure if I should have two layouts, or just one layout that converts between DC and DCC.

Also not sure if my wallet can handle DCC.

Recon1342
Recon1342 Dork
11/20/20 9:47 p.m.
slowbird said:

I've purchased various crappy DC locomotives and now I feel the compulsive need to buy a bunch of expensive, fancy DCC locomotives with sound chips...

Not sure if I should have two layouts, or just one layout that converts between DC and DCC.

Also not sure if my wallet can handle DCC.

Most DCC decoders are dual-mode and can be used on a DC layout. You just don't get all the functionality.

It's not cheap, though...

slowbird
slowbird SuperDork
11/20/20 10:13 p.m.

Also thinking about buying an N scale locomotive just because there's no HO scale version that I can find...

Curse you, FL9, with your unusual wheel arrangement.

 

LS_BC8
LS_BC8 New Reader
11/21/20 2:03 a.m.

Does Rapido not make an HO FL9?

slowbird
slowbird SuperDork
11/21/20 10:53 a.m.

In reply to LS_BC8 :

Well, it turns out they do have some available for pre-ordering. Whether or not I can get one, I don't know yet. But at least I know it's out there.

Pete Gossett (Forum Supporter)
Pete Gossett (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
11/21/20 10:13 p.m.

So Lionel released an O-scale version of the UP Big Boy 4014, but it'll cost you a Challenge car if you want one. 

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
11/21/20 10:40 p.m.

In reply to slowbird :

Model Railroader review

Not cheap,  however.

NickD
NickD UltimaDork
11/22/20 9:12 a.m.

In reply to Pete Gossett (Forum Supporter) :

Honestly cheaper than I expected. O Gauge is for people who hate money

NickD
NickD UltimaDork
11/22/20 9:31 a.m.

I was on my way to Clinton, NY and came across the NYO&W station at Deansboro. This was on the NYO&W's Utica Division, which was originally the Utica, Clinton & Binghamton Railroad before the O&W bought it. The UC&B paralleled some of the O&W's destinations, but was better routed, so the O&W used that trackage instead.

NickD
NickD UltimaDork
11/24/20 8:42 a.m.

Go Fund Me to return Canadian National #6060 to operation

Rocky Mountain Rail Society is trying to get CNR #6060, aka Bullet Nose Betty, operational again. She's been parked since 2011.

NickD
NickD UltimaDork
11/24/20 8:45 a.m.

In other Canadian National steam news, CNR #6167 on the move to her new location in Guelph. Hopefully they put a fence and a roof around her, but seems unlikely. #6167 is historically important because her and Confederation (CN's name for a Northern) sister #6218 were the last steam engines operated by CNR, used from '60-'64 to haul excursions.

ShawnG
ShawnG UltimaDork
11/24/20 9:17 a.m.

There's a Shay parked outside the foresty museum in Portland, OR.

That's all I remember, I was there a few years ago.

The railway museum there is fantastic.

NickD
NickD UltimaDork
11/24/20 9:54 a.m.

NickD
NickD UltimaDork
11/24/20 9:55 a.m.

NickD
NickD UltimaDork
11/24/20 9:55 a.m.

NickD
NickD UltimaDork
11/24/20 9:56 a.m.

NickD
NickD UltimaDork
11/24/20 9:56 a.m.

You can tell this photo of #6218 is old because people could be trusted to look out for themselves back in the day and not stand on the tracks to try and get a selfie

NickD
NickD UltimaDork
11/24/20 11:31 a.m.

CN #6218 waits in a siding as MLW FPA-4s pass by with a passenger train.

NickD
NickD UltimaDork
11/24/20 11:35 a.m.

CNR #6218 at Brattleboro, VT

NickD
NickD UltimaDork
11/24/20 1:29 p.m.

CNR #6167 with an excursion at Belleville Yard in 1962. Look at the folks hanging out the open baggage car doors. Yeah, that'd be a no-go today.

NickD
NickD UltimaDork
11/24/20 1:31 p.m.

CNR #6167 on a winter excursion, having her tender refilled with a clamshell bucket.

NickD
NickD UltimaDork
11/24/20 1:34 p.m.

CNR #6167 getting topped off at the Mimico yard coal tower in 1960. Around 1960, the Upper Canada Railway Society approached CN about a steam locomotive for excursion service. Most of the dozen or so remaining Confederations based out of Mimico had been stored serviceable. #6167, still based out of Mimico, was one of a few that had been most recently retubed before retirement and had the least amount of mileage on it since, which likely played a factor in its selection over the others. When its flue time ran out in '64, it was parked and the #6218 took over into the '70s.

NickD
NickD UltimaDork
11/24/20 1:37 p.m.

The only doubleheader between #6167 and #6218. It was done right before #6167's time was up and #6218 had just been returned to operation.

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