I loved the audi at 1:20 leaving three smoking darkies on the tarmac, only three because the RH front looked like it never touched back down untill quite some distance after the corner!
How did they keep tires on those cars?
I loved the audi at 1:20 leaving three smoking darkies on the tarmac, only three because the RH front looked like it never touched back down untill quite some distance after the corner!
How did they keep tires on those cars?
HappyAndy wrote: I loved the audi at 1:20 leaving three smoking darkies on the tarmac, only three because the RH front looked like it never touched back down untill quite some distance after the corner! How did they keep tires on those cars?
The service for these cars was amazing. Several service teams in helicopters, dropped in to roads after the end's of stages to rebuild them. It wasn't just the cars and fans that were out of control it was the events. Non of the canned 2.5 day event around a central location, rallies used to be 5 days and cover the whole contry.
93celicaGT2 wrote: The Audis just sound.... scary. The Audi 5 cylinder turbo motors are the only motors on the face of the planet that make my knees shake.
That's why I want AUDI to bring the RS3 to the US 
Some of these are great!
Spinout007 wrote: Ouch! Some of these are great!
Yup that vid's a real good lesson in physics. The cars that don't hit anything just keep tumbling and tumbling. It looks impressive but it gives time for all the energy to disipate. The cars that hit trees stop. Make that STOP. I wince when I see those. This should be required watching for any rally cage builder.
Yeah after seeing some of those wrecks I'm giving the whole stage rally miata idea, a real long thinking. Cage design and implimentation would be key with it.
Man, those Finns are pretty hard on Fords in particular :)
There's one little hatch that shows up over and over, looks to me like a Justy but seems to be RWD. Any ideas?
Thanks for posting that, good God those things sound awesome!
No clue keith. The one scene twards the end where the car literally disappears into the snow made me about fall over laughing.
I had the chance to attend the Rallye Criterium du Quebec back in the 1970's when it was part of the world Rally Championship. That was pre-Quattro, so the hot cars were the Rothman's Escorts. On a transit stage I watched Ari Vatanen jump his Escort 4 feet off the ground. No helmets on,100+ MPH and he was driving with one hand ! The other hand was waving at me, as I sat on a fence post spectating. Later,I watched his mechanics change the transmission in the car,on the shoulder of the road in 8 minutes ! On a paved stage they were blindingly quick with 2 wheel drive. A Group B car has to be amazing to see in person.
Ur Quattro...FTMFW! Sorry 'bout the language!
Remember Sega Rally in the arcades(what's an arcade?). I always chose the Lancia over the Toyota.
93celicaGT2 wrote: The Audis just sound.... scary. The Audi 5 cylinder turbo motors are the only motors on the face of the planet that make my knees shake.
DITTO. It sounds like open wastegate madness just screaming at you. Then you also hear the anti-lag off throttle... LOVE the Audis...
Of course im only assuming they ran anti-lag back then, does anyone know if they did?
I remember reading something about injecting fuel directly into the hotside of the turbo
smog7 wrote: I remember reading something about injecting fuel directly into the hotside of the turbo
I've heard of that too, I think the system was called "bang bang". IIRC it didn't inject fuel into the exh, but when off throttle it injected the regular injectors stupid rich and retarded the ignition timing to make the exhaust manifold into a flame thrower, which would explain the frequent flames out the tail pipes.
I'd like to know more about this if any one has some information to confirm this (or to refute it )
Adrian_Thompson wrote:HappyAndy wrote: I loved the audi at 1:20 leaving three smoking darkies on the tarmac, only three because the RH front looked like it never touched back down untill quite some distance after the corner! How did they keep tires on those cars?The service for these cars was amazing. Several service teams in helicopters, dropped in to roads after the end's of stages to rebuild them. It wasn't just the cars and fans that were out of control it was the events. Non of the canned 2.5 day event around a central location, rallies used to be 5 days and cover the whole contry.
I know they had awsome service teams for the cars back then, but I actually want to know if the did any thing special to keep the tires on the rims while driving like that through miles and miles of rough tarmac.
friedgreencorrado wrote:gamby wrote:Found part of a French documentary on a team running 308s. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InKWSP8n7vEAppleseed wrote: Did you see the Ferrari 308 at 2:42?!?That's what I was just going to post about!!!I hope that car still exists in that form SOMEWHERE out there. That is wild. Killer clip. I loves me some balls-out tarmac rally. All that sputtering and spitting is fantastic. That is proper motorsport, people. None of this over-regulated, spec-racer crap.
That was awesome. Damn--the car diversity was so great back then.
I had goosebumps the entire 11 minutes, pure awesomeness!!
HappyAndy wrote:smog7 wrote: I remember reading something about injecting fuel directly into the hotside of the turboI've heard of that too, I think the system was called "bang bang". IIRC it didn't inject fuel into the exh, but when off throttle it injected the regular injectors stupid rich and retarded the ignition timing to make the exhaust manifold into a flame thrower, which would explain the frequent flames out the tail pipes. I'd like to know more about this if any one has some information to confirm this (or to refute it )
Well then i guess they did use anti-lag back then... Thats how it works as far as I know (someone correct me if I'm wrong)... The timing gets retarded so far, or spark is cut completely ( i think on some occasions) so as to push fuel into the manifold/turbo hot side so it ignites and spools the turbo off throttle and voila. No lag. Thats why they use stuff like inconel for the turbo/exhaust applications.
I watched something on Hans Stuck when he raced IMSA with audi and he said they he used techniques like left foot braking to keep the turbo spooled. Maybe they werent allowed anti-lag in IMSA?
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