BlueInGreen - Jon
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5/18/22 7:04 p.m.
NickD said:

Dusterbd13-michael
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5/18/22 8:10 p.m.

Dusterbd13-michael
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5/18/22 8:13 p.m.

Toyman!
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5/18/22 8:17 p.m.

In reply to Dusterbd13-michael :

I'd have to stop at that one just to meet them.

Toyman!
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5/18/22 8:46 p.m.

P3PPY
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5/18/22 9:49 p.m.
NickD said:

You're kidding me. That's a real thing?

 

Okay, I heard a rumor that car mfgs are aiming their designs at the Chinese market's tastes since they're a HUGE market. Is this an effect of that??

Pete. (l33t FS)
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5/18/22 9:54 p.m.

In reply to P3PPY :

Yes.

There seems to be a distinct lack of concern for history and style in the Chinese market.

I recall an anecdote about a group of Chinese businessmen ogling the latest unimpressive Ferrari somewhere.  There was a $50 million vintage Ferrari in the same room, they were ignoring it because it was just an old car.

 

DarkMonohue
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5/18/22 10:17 p.m.

P3PPY
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5/18/22 10:39 p.m.

In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :

anything to do with our idea of "old" not meaning much to a 3,000 year old civilization? Or has the culture really flipped on its head, much like their neighbor Japan after their little visit from Perry?

What Are You Doing Step Frog Meme

thashane
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5/18/22 10:46 p.m.

Pete. (l33t FS)
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5/18/22 10:51 p.m.
P3PPY said:

In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :

anything to do with our idea of "old" not meaning much to a 3,000 year old civilization? Or has the culture really flipped on its head, much like their neighbor Japan after their little visit from Perry?

What Are You Doing Step Frog Meme

I blame Mao's Cultural Revolution, myself.  Old is bad, new is good.

Appleseed
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5/19/22 1:12 a.m.

Russian Warship, Go Berkeley Yourself
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5/19/22 9:21 a.m.

GCrites80s
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5/19/22 11:30 a.m.
Pete. (l33t FS) said:

In reply to P3PPY :

Yes.

There seems to be a distinct lack of concern for history and style in the Chinese market.

I recall an anecdote about a group of Chinese businessmen ogling the latest unimpressive Ferrari somewhere.  There was a $50 million vintage Ferrari in the same room, they were ignoring it because it was just an old car.

 

They might geek out about '70s bicycles though since that's what was around rather than cars.

Keith Tanner
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5/19/22 12:13 p.m.
GCrites80s said:
Pete. (l33t FS) said:

In reply to P3PPY :

Yes.

There seems to be a distinct lack of concern for history and style in the Chinese market.

I recall an anecdote about a group of Chinese businessmen ogling the latest unimpressive Ferrari somewhere.  There was a $50 million vintage Ferrari in the same room, they were ignoring it because it was just an old car.

 

They might geek out about '70s bicycles though since that's what was around rather than cars.

When you have 3000 years of history, a car from 50 years ago is just outdated.

As for style, it's a different aesthetic. We may not like it, but that doesn't matter. Interestingly, the Chinese like sedans while the American market has completely abandoned them for tanks.

1988RedT2
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5/19/22 12:50 p.m.
Keith Tanner said:

When you have 3000 years of history, a car from 50 years ago is just outdated.

As for style, it's a different aesthetic. We may not like it, but that doesn't matter. Interestingly, the Chinese like sedans while the American market has completely abandoned them for tanks.

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F-ug4QNQPEc-8%2FVq4iDHJRv9I%2FAAAAAAAAHaE%2FZlz6DIwLA1w%2Fw1200-h630-p-k-no-nu%2F8938506.jpg&f=1&nofb=1

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.2040-cars.com%2F_content%2Fcars%2Fimages%2F96%2F812196%2F001.jpg&f=1&nofb=1

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5/19/22 12:56 p.m.

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5/19/22 12:56 p.m.

llysgennad
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5/19/22 1:06 p.m.

eastsideTim
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5/19/22 1:14 p.m.
Pete. (l33t FS) said:

In reply to P3PPY :

Yes.

There seems to be a distinct lack of concern for history and style in the Chinese market.

I recall an anecdote about a group of Chinese businessmen ogling the latest unimpressive Ferrari somewhere.  There was a $50 million vintage Ferrari in the same room, they were ignoring it because it was just an old car.

 

I remember the obsession with newness back in 2000 when I was there.  Of course, with cars, they don't have the greatest frame of reference with older cars.  Their vintage stuff would mostly be crappy domestics and outdated VWs.

BMW is just following in Lexus's footsteps with regard to the Chinese market.  Obnoxiously ugly is the new way to show off how much you spent on a car

Keith Tanner
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5/19/22 1:30 p.m.
1988RedT2 said:
Keith Tanner said:

When you have 3000 years of history, a car from 50 years ago is just outdated.

As for style, it's a different aesthetic. We may not like it, but that doesn't matter. Interestingly, the Chinese like sedans while the American market has completely abandoned them for tanks.

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F-ug4QNQPEc-8%2FVq4iDHJRv9I%2FAAAAAAAAHaE%2FZlz6DIwLA1w%2Fw1200-h630-p-k-no-nu%2F8938506.jpg&f=1&nofb=1

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.2040-cars.com%2F_content%2Fcars%2Fimages%2F96%2F812196%2F001.jpg&f=1&nofb=1

That's not a sedan :)

Also, I've driven a 245.

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 MegaDork
5/19/22 1:37 p.m.

In reply to Keith Tanner :

Anybody could have linked a 240 sedan.  I went with the wagon just because it's cooler. laugh

The only Volvo I've ever owned was a '93 945T, and it's amazing how nicely a turbo fixes the slow.

 

Edited to correct egregious omission of meme:

https://i.imgflip.com/1d1ix2.jpg

Brett_Murphy (Agent of Chaos)
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5/19/22 1:53 p.m.
Russian Warship, Go Berkeley Yourself said:

Given how clean the paint looks, it's a brand new store. 

gearheadmb
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5/19/22 1:59 p.m.
1988RedT2 said:
Keith Tanner said:

When you have 3000 years of history, a car from 50 years ago is just outdated.

As for style, it's a different aesthetic. We may not like it, but that doesn't matter. Interestingly, the Chinese like sedans while the American market has completely abandoned them for tanks

Maybe they had a bad experience with tanks or something. 

Brett_Murphy (Agent of Chaos)
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5/19/22 2:20 p.m.

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