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SkinnyG
SkinnyG UltraDork
9/7/18 7:03 p.m.

Trans is back together, should be back in on Monday.

An electrical path in the valve body was broken, which I expected. A bronze sprag bushing thing for the front drum was seized onto its bearing surface, which I did not expect.  I don't know if they are going to put in a new converter or not, I'll find out when I pay the bill I guess; I forgot to ask.

No idea what the bill is going to be; when you don't have a whole lot of choice, you just do what you gotta do.

SkinnyG
SkinnyG UltraDork
9/10/18 8:10 p.m.

It's back home.  Golly I missed that car.  I really really really like it.

Trans rebuild, new converter, some extra labour to deal with disassembly and that bronze bushing.

The old clutches looked mostly ok.  One band had a dark stripe down the center.  Probably good that we limped it to the shop right when we noticed an issue, vs. driving it until the shavings machined everything oversize.

Total bill?  $3600 CDN.  Doesn't feel all THAT bad.

SkinnyG
SkinnyG UltraDork
11/14/18 6:48 p.m.

Car is back at the transmission shop.  Same P1757, same noises and stuff. Likely the solder repair on the valve body didn't hold (I suspect they just blobbed over the crack, no wire "bridge" giving it strength).

They are saying it needs a valvebody.  I can understand their hesitance in "fixing" it again; no shop wants comebacks or warranty work. It's already come back. We gambled and lost, so they are recommending a new valvebody.  That's $2000 and 3 weeks out of Japan, and then to the dealer for programming. Yay.

I'm starting to love this car less. No longer the screaming deal it once was, or the reasonable deal it became. I'm hoping the rest of it will last long enough to last as long as it needs to, to become the $1000/yr I need a car to be.

Antihero
Antihero Dork
11/14/18 7:11 p.m.
rustybugkiller said:

Yeah, I’d take that over a Century every day! Sorry Buick lovers. 

There are people that like Centuries? I mean...ive known a few Century owners but none that were jumping up and down with glee from driving one

SkinnyG
SkinnyG UltraDork
11/14/18 7:16 p.m.

I couldn't jump much at all after driving one.

Aaron_King
Aaron_King PowerDork
11/15/18 12:01 p.m.

In reply to Antihero :

When I was in HS, late 80's, my future FIL got an 86 Century from a Dentist that had the 3800 in it.  While that car road like a typical Buick it was surprisingly quick.  We had some good times in that car.

SkinnyG
SkinnyG UltraDork
12/3/18 9:07 p.m.

New valvebody arrived from Japan on Friday.  Should have the car back in a day or two.

Been borrowing the in-law's '02 Chevy HD2500 Duramax, and then their '17 Chevy Equinox, and now my father's '02 Honda Odyssey. The whole family doesn't fit in my '77 Silverado, my '87 Firefly, my '06 Locost, or my '61 Apache.

If you own more than four cars and still have to bum a ride to work, you might be a redneck.

SkinnyG
SkinnyG UltraDork
12/4/18 7:00 p.m.

Car is back home.  Just sitting in it feels like "home" again.  I love this car.

$2900 valvebody replacement I am less in love with, but what can you do....

SkinnyG
SkinnyG UltraDork
12/5/18 9:25 a.m.

No.  No... wait.  It's acting up......

Aaron_King
Aaron_King PowerDork
12/5/18 10:40 a.m.

Fingers crossed for you.  Cars are so much fun sometimes.

TJL
TJL New Reader
12/5/18 12:29 p.m.

That sucks. I followed the Maxima’s for a bit as my mom bought a new one in 02 and its still in the family with over 200k miles on it. And still kicking butt. Anyways from watching the forums, people would have some very nice, well kept maximas. Once the tranny’s started to go, they parted the car out or tried swapping a manual in. Always seemed silly scrapping a nice car over a transmission but after seeing your experience and expenses with it, i can see why. 

RedGT
RedGT Dork
12/5/18 12:34 p.m.

Jesus.  Time to start buying junkyard transmissions and running them til they die at a few hundred bucks a pop.

SkinnyG
SkinnyG UltraDork
12/5/18 7:26 p.m.

A junkyard trans is a gamble, but if you're willing to gamble.....

I probably -should- have taken the trans on myself, but I really didn't think I had time.  School was starting, I had a new subject to teach as well, and Mrs. Skinny needs a chariot to cart the kiddies around. I looked at my options, and in the interest of time and less gambling, I chose to "pay the man."

IF the shop had only repaired the broken trace on the valvebody and called it done, it would have been a whole lot cheaper.

BUT there was some shrapnel in the bottom of the pan, which they told me is unusual for this trans.  I trust they know what they are doing, I mean they -are- a trans shop after all, and I'm not. I made the call to rebuild the trans.  I could see keeping it for a while, and I had this gut feeling the trans was on its way out anyway.

AND there were, indeed, some issues with the trans once they got it apart. The clutches et al didn't look all that bad to me, but I'm not a trans guy; I really don't have that much experience.

IF the shop had put some wire under the solder to properly bridge the valvebody trace repair, it probably would have held, but it didn't look like there was any under there when I stopped by during the rebuild.  Again, I'm not a trans guy, I don't do transmissions for a living. But it broke. I can see where a shop is coming from in that they don't want to gamble for a customer again to save money.  Order the part, no more comeback.  If I went in there myself to re-fix the solder joint, they likely wouldn't warranty the trans.

LAST NIGHT'S ISSUE was a result of low oil in the trans. Right after picking it up with the new valvebody and dealer-programming. Isn't that just awesome? There is "And I paid money for that" but there also is "we all make mistakes."

Should I have just fixed the break, and left the trans alone? Probably. I don't know. It may have lasted a good long time.  It may have popped anyway. I made a choice that made sense at the time. I'm not sure, at this point, that that was the wisest choice.  But I don't want my wife driving around in junk I cobbled together and hopefully doesn't fail.

Are these vehicles all that bad? No. But my epitaph is going to be "Wow, I didn't expect it to go wrong that way!"

What does scare me is that I know Nissan electrical is a bit quirky..... I'm not sure the future is going to be trouble free.

Having said all that, as soon as I sat in the Infiniti after three weeks without it, it totally feels like "home" and really did miss it.  I love the car, and the first moment of sitting back in it it all seemed worth it ("Because I'm stupid"  - my other Epitaph).

 

jfryjfry
jfryjfry HalfDork
12/6/18 8:39 a.m.

Glad it was only low fluid yes

P3PPY
P3PPY Reader
12/6/18 9:38 a.m.

I can't vouch for these but friend sent me this link RE his Civic needing a new trans. Seems like a screaming good deal if true

https://www.jdmenginedepotinc.com

SkinnyG
SkinnyG UltraDork
4/7/19 2:54 p.m.

Suspecting the front had an un-equal level of caster up front, so I checked it.

LF: +6°

RF: +4.25°

And joy upon joys, not at all adjustable in any way or even by slotting anything.

I cannot see anything bent, but that doesn't mean it's not bent.

Aftermarket upper arms are available for $800US.  *cough* Yeah.

More research....

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