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stanger_mussle UberDork
7/23/21 10:24 a.m.


So the hot rod model is only available in 3 colors? Why can't you get the red or blue on the TRD?

mtn MegaDork
7/23/21 10:26 a.m.

On paper, this compares very favorably to the SHO. And if it came out in 1989, we'd be going crazy over it. But it honestly isn't anything special. I've never driven a SHO, but I anticipate that it is far more fun than this, because this is probably a rather dull, muted, Camry like driving experience. It makes for an excellent car for the average buyer. And it looks cool. But it doesn't feel fun.


(Never driven one, though I have driven multiple Camrys/Camry derivatives)



Streetwiseguy MegaDork
7/23/21 12:33 p.m.

When I read the title of this thread, I figured somebody was having trouble with the air conditioning in their beige appliance. 

A discussion about an attractive Camry does not compute.

1988RedT2 MegaDork
7/24/21 2:05 p.m.

My wife recently traded the V6 Accord on a 2021 Camry XSE with that fancy roof and 235/40R19 tires.  Of course with the V6--the wife refuses to drive a 4-cylinder car.  Mileage isn't nearly as good as the Accord, which had the DOD thing, but it's not bad.  I've only driven it once or twice.  Three hundred horsepower?  In a Camry?   I haven't romped on it yet.  I might be afraid....

These are interesting times.

Aaron_King PowerDork
7/24/21 3:39 p.m.

This was at C&C this morning:  


andy_b New Reader
7/24/21 6:59 p.m.

I think before we can really judge it, it's important to know if it's any more than a set of H&R's and Koni Sports away from being a decently sporty ride. 

Mr. Peabody
Mr. Peabody UltimaDork
7/24/21 7:48 p.m.

I'm not sure what I hate more, four door cars or Toyotas.

But I can still appreciate a good looking car, and this is a good looking one. I saw a white one today that looked just like that first one posted and it looked even better in person



ShawnG UltimaDork
7/24/21 8:20 p.m.

Don't worry, it's soul will still be beige.

captdownshift (Forum Supporter)
captdownshift (Forum Supporter) UltimaDork
7/24/21 8:32 p.m.

Redshift will make coilovers for the Camry and whiteline makes a big honking rear swaybar for it. In the XV20 chassis I can confirm that the setup doesn't do anything for steering feel, but if you aggressively pitch it in and trailbrake it will fight past the understeer into a holy crap, this is a neutral slide. I haven't gotten the setup onto dirt but I suspect it will be possible to prompt rotation. 

1988RedT2 MegaDork
7/24/21 8:34 p.m.
Mr. Peabody said:

I'm not sure what I hate more, four door cars or Toyotas.


You should save a little of that hate for SUV's.   There's never been much if any penalty for four doors vs. two in a sedan, but a big increase in usefulness.  Most people are probably closer to buying something with three rows than they are with two seats.

Mr. Peabody
Mr. Peabody UltimaDork
7/25/21 8:41 a.m.
ShawnG said:

Don't worry, it's soul will still be beige.

Oh, I would not even consider it. It's a Toyota. Beige isn't a soul, it's a lack of anything resembling one

One of the forum members has a brilliant sig that's that says something about the personality of vehicles, and how the Japanese manage to engineer that out. If anybody knows who that is, direct me there. I want to use it the next time somebody asks why I sold my Japanese MX bike and replaced it with an Italian one.

dxman92 Dork
7/25/21 2:55 p.m.

I can appreciate that Toyota is still making this flavor in a sedan and offers it in awd but berk that front end is ugly and looks like they stole it from an aircraft.

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