wvumtnbkr
wvumtnbkr UltimaDork
10/10/24 11:43 a.m.

Looking for any of these t5 WC Trans as an experiment.

1352-

219

208

204

199

Ideally, it would be one of the special ones...

200

202

227

249

251

 

This is gonna get a gm tailshaft and go into my gm v6 powered rx8 challenge car.  I'm trying to mix and match some parts.

Lemme know whatchu got!

 

wvumtnbkr
wvumtnbkr UltimaDork
10/10/24 9:17 p.m.

Cmon yall.  Who's got a Mustang v8 t5?

Ranger50
Ranger50 MegaDork
10/10/24 11:25 p.m.

I have one or three but given a new one is 2k now.... I would rather not sell.

So what are you brewing up? S10 or Fbody? Both require a the shift plate, shifter block, and tailshaft housing.

03Panther
03Panther PowerDork
10/11/24 12:46 a.m.

Like ranger said, I'm not selling mine, but I have some of the GM stuff, and need ford, for future plans!

mine is from a FlameChicken with the 3.8 in 1996. My limited research tells me it is a World Class T5 with the 60deg V6 bellhousing to engine bolt pattern (and hyd clutch) with the Ford trans to bell pattern. Input shaft is GM, and tail shaft as well. Unsure of gear ratio, but I've read it is as strong as the other World Class T5s, except a couple specialty ones. 
would trade the GM spec stuff, or whole thing, if something of interest to me!
A T45 for 4.6,(5.4, 6.8 or V10) or any ford FE stick with bell housing... or 'bout any stick, as I have several plans. Or... I'm pretty easy. 

wvumtnbkr
wvumtnbkr UltimaDork
10/11/24 7:25 a.m.

Hmmm....  what I'm really after is the gear ratios.  They are much better in the Ford v8 stuff versus the 99 camaro v6 box I have in my rx8.

 

I wonder if I can just buy the gearsets and slap them into my trans?

wvumtnbkr
wvumtnbkr UltimaDork
10/11/24 8:21 a.m.

I just learned something today!

1352 -260 fits the same applications, has a 300 lbft rating and uses an sbf bell housing.  This is for a 99 to 04 v6 mustang.

They are much cheaper to find as well (and newer).  The only downside for foxbody peeps is that it uses an electronic speedo setup (which I don't care about).

So, if you swap the tailshaft and speedo gear, it is identical to a 1990 to 1993 Ford V8 T5.

I believe one of these will work for my shenanigans. 

 

Edit: the input shaft is about 1/2 inch longer and so is the bell.  Therefore your shifter would be 1/2 inch further back and might require driveshaft shortening.  None of that matters in my case.

Ranger50
Ranger50 MegaDork
10/11/24 8:49 a.m.

5/8" difference. Altho you can retrofit the fox input shaft in a 3.35 box.

03Panther
03Panther PowerDork
10/11/24 9:03 a.m.
wvumtnbkr said:

Hmmm....  what I'm really after is the gear ratios.  They are much better in the Ford v8 stuff versus the 99 camaro v6 box I have in my rx8.

 

I wonder if I can just buy the gearsets and slap them into my trans?

I had the feeling you had the same trans as me, in something interesting!

From some reading along the the way, the different gear ratios are drop in, but that is strictly internet lore, so definitely don't know for sure. 

wvumtnbkr
wvumtnbkr UltimaDork
10/11/24 9:04 a.m.
Ranger50 said:

5/8" difference. Altho you can retrofit the fox input shaft in a 3.35 box.

I'm hoping I can retrofit the gm 26 spline input shaft into the box (with the gm 60 deg bellhousing).

wvumtnbkr
wvumtnbkr UltimaDork
10/11/24 9:16 a.m.
03Panther said:
wvumtnbkr said:

Hmmm....  what I'm really after is the gear ratios.  They are much better in the Ford v8 stuff versus the 99 camaro v6 box I have in my rx8.

 

I wonder if I can just buy the gearsets and slap them into my trans?

I had the feeling you had the same trans as me, in something interesting!

From some reading along the the way, the different gear ratios are drop in, but that is strictly internet lore, so definitely don't know for sure. 

Yep.  Same trans.  I am going down this path because I have a vibration that I think might be trans related.  So, I was looking into what I can mix and match to get better ratios / stronger box / any upgraded.

The ratios are kinda E36 M3 in our gearboxes...

3.75 : 2.19 : 1.41 : 1.00 : 0.72

Ford standard ratios:

3.35 : 1.99 : 1.33 : 1.00 : 0.68

wvumtnbkr
wvumtnbkr UltimaDork
10/11/24 9:43 a.m.
wvumtnbkr said:
Ranger50 said:

5/8" difference. Altho you can retrofit the fox input shaft in a 3.35 box.

I'm hoping I can retrofit the gm 26 spline input shaft into the box (with the gm 60 deg bellhousing).

I'm an idiot.  Can't change the input shaft like that.  Obviously the gear need to mate with the existing countershaft.  Can't mix and match like that unless the same ratios.

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
10/12/24 1:36 p.m.
wvumtnbkr said:
Ranger50 said:

5/8" difference. Altho you can retrofit the fox input shaft in a 3.35 box.

I'm hoping I can retrofit the gm 26 spline input shaft into the box (with the gm 60 deg bellhousing).

Check the tooth count.  IIRC the Ford V8 input shafts have a 23 tooth gear and no Chevy gearset uses a 23 tooth input.

 

I have a 2.95 first gear Ford box but I'd really like a Chevy gearset because 7.25" clutches for Chevy are an order of magnitude cheaper than for Ford.  So I've been down this line of thought...

wvumtnbkr
wvumtnbkr UltimaDork
10/12/24 8:44 p.m.

Wanna trade? I'll drive up and swap parts

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
10/12/24 10:07 p.m.

It's currently in pieces, probably some missing, and the input shaft has been machined down to fit a Mazda pilot bearing because I don't like the little thin bushing that you use when putting a Ford trans on a rotary.

 

 

wvumtnbkr
wvumtnbkr UltimaDork
10/13/24 5:01 p.m.
Edward311 said:

In reply to wvumtnbkr :

I have got one rebuilt up for sale if still needed pics available 

Pics would be great!  How much are you looking to get for it?

akylekoz
akylekoz UberDork
10/14/24 6:54 a.m.

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Notice the fifth gear in the 2.3 trans.

My buddy added a Road race fifth to his 5.0 T-5, worked great.  Then we added one to our 2.3 T-5, we ended up with a ratio that ended between 3rd and 4th, not ideal for Road America.  Then I found this chart that showed the 2.3 T-5 has about the best ratios for our under powered car.

These are just the Mustang T-5's.  They are all just a bit different.

wvumtnbkr
wvumtnbkr UltimaDork
10/14/24 9:59 a.m.
akylekoz said:

t5-identifier-gif.68815

Notice the fifth gear in the 2.3 trans.

My buddy added a Road race fifth to his 5.0 T-5, worked great.  Then we added one to our 2.3 T-5, we ended up with a ratio that ended between 3rd and 4th, not ideal for Road America.  Then I found this chart that showed the 2.3 T-5 has about the best ratios for our under powered car.

These are just the Mustang T-5's.  They are all just a bit different.

I actually want an even taller 5th gear.  I have a 4.1 dif in the car and can't go any taller.  With my t5 in it now (.74 5th), the engine is turning 3000 rpm at 75mph.  The 5.0 t5 would only bring that down to 2800.  I'd prefer even taller!

wvumtnbkr
wvumtnbkr UltimaDork
10/14/24 2:06 p.m.
Edward311 said:

Pm sent

I didn't see anything in any of my emails.

Can you send it to rabenr45 at the g mail place?

 

Thanks!

 

Rob R.

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
10/15/24 6:41 p.m.

In reply to Edward311 :

Hey Edward,  what kind of operation are you running?  In the last month you've replied that you have everything from Triumph parts to T-5 transmissions to Brembo brakes?  

If anyone is interested this link will take you to every thread Edward has contributed to since his arrival 1 month ago.  Only 7 posts.  

wvumtnbkr
wvumtnbkr UltimaDork
10/15/24 7:30 p.m.
Edward311 said:

Waiting for your response

Regards

I'm looking for something a bit cheaper.

Also, the reverse image search from the pic you sent was from a few different ebay ads.  Are those your ebay ads?

RacetruckRon
RacetruckRon SuperDork
10/16/24 10:15 a.m.
wvumtnbkr said:
Edward311 said:

Waiting for your response

Regards

I'm looking for something a bit cheaper.

Also, the reverse image search from the pic you sent was from a few different ebay ads.  Are those your ebay ads?

post it up, shame the scammer out of here

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