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kanaric
kanaric Dork
7/6/17 10:33 a.m.

Australian cars have interested me for a while, classic cars I mean and much of their muscle cars are 4 doors. I've been watching this show Preacher and on it the "hero car" is a 4 door Chevelle Malibu.

I was never much into classic american cars until recently so I mostly know the typical coupes and pony cars that you typically see. What are the of the more interesting 4 door cars that are out there? Bonus points if it's affordable lmao.

Car from the show I was talking about:

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner MegaDork
7/6/17 10:51 a.m.

You can't post a four door muscle car from Australia and ignore the Falcon GHTO Phase 3. Hasn't been affordable for a while.

Although I'm personally more of a VH Commodore SS man, thanks to Brock.

The obvious US equivalent is a Caprice.

kanaric
kanaric Dork
7/6/17 11:06 a.m.

Ya that Falcon is exactly what I was thinking of lol. I've seen the prices of them and it's astronomical. BTW car I posted is American not Australian, basically looking for roughly American "equivalents" of that Falcon though. The car I posted is the only thing I could think of.

Another Australian 4 door car like that Falcon, this is a compact homologation special, Holden Torana. Also probably not affordable lmao

pres589
pres589 PowerDork
7/6/17 11:14 a.m.

AMC offered lots of engine options in their cars and could probably be included in this list. Some of them were pretty flashy like the Hurst S/C Rambler or The Machine which was basically a hot package thrown at their Rebel. This was a mid-sized car available in two door hardtop and convertible, four door sedan, and wagons. You could get this car with a 390ci V8 with over 300 gross horsepower;

These cars are not expensive vs. some of the others out there. The nice thing is all of the trucks and Jeeps that used AMC drivetrains that would allow for nice swap opportunities. The AMC 360 was used through the 80's in the Jeep Wagoneer and derivatives, for instance, and would be a great way to hot up a car that came with a factory inline-six or a V8 in need of a rebuild.

BrokenYugo
BrokenYugo MegaDork
7/6/17 11:47 a.m.

68-74 and 75-79 Novas or the Buick/Olds/Pontiac derivatives are cheap (especially the 75-79), especially the 4 doors, they're all made out of period Camaro parts so performance stuff is easy.

kanaric
kanaric Dork
7/6/17 12:16 p.m.
BrokenYugo wrote: 68-74 and 75-79 Novas or the Buick/Olds/Pontiac derivatives are cheap (especially the 75-79), especially the 4 doors, they're all made out of period Camaro parts so performance stuff is easy.

Really? That does sound like a good option. As much as the AMC option interests me having common parts would be so useful

The0retical
The0retical SuperDork
7/6/17 12:33 p.m.

Charger Hellcat. Only because it's hard to see the extra scoops.

3rd gen Satellite's since they're not super desirable

4 Door RX-3 again not super desirable. Big following down under.

Nessumsar
Nessumsar New Reader
7/6/17 2:44 p.m.

There's always Nova sedans, and they're cheap to boot!

Bobzilla
Bobzilla MegaDork
7/6/17 2:55 p.m.

If I ever get tired of the truck I'll be looking for an 88-90 Caprice.

Joe Gearin
Joe Gearin Associate Publisher
7/6/17 3:41 p.m.

GM G-Bodies make good 4-door hotrods. Plenty of 4 door, hatch and wagons out there. Look for 78-82 Malibus, Cutlasses, and even Bonevilles. Crushed velvet interiors FTW!

kanaric
kanaric Dork
7/6/17 3:43 p.m.
Joe Gearin wrote: GM G-Bodies make good 4-door hotrods. Plenty of 4 door, hatch and wagons out there. Look for 78-82 Malibus, Cutlasses, and even Bonevilles. Crushed velvet interiors FTW!

I had picked up a black 80 malibu for a family friend in Vegas about a year ago and it's his current project car. It looked great and is probably up my alley for what i'm looking for, good suggestion.

RossD
RossD UltimaDork
7/6/17 3:55 p.m.

Don't forget the 4 door Fox body cars. Just throw the Mustang hop up parts at it.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner MegaDork
7/6/17 4:40 p.m.

This is basically a Pro Touring thread when you get down to it

Back to the Aussies - don't forget the Chevy SS is basically a Commodore SS. So was the Pontiac GT, if memory serves. And I'll bet that weird Chevy PPV has the same DNA.

BrokenYugo
BrokenYugo MegaDork
7/6/17 4:50 p.m.
kanaric wrote:
BrokenYugo wrote: 68-74 and 75-79 Novas or the Buick/Olds/Pontiac derivatives are cheap (especially the 75-79), especially the 4 doors, they're all made out of period Camaro parts so performance stuff is easy.
Really? That does sound like a good option. As much as the AMC option interests me having common parts would be so useful

Going from memeory here but I think the following is correct. For example the entire front subframe of this forgotten car (or any 75-79 X body) is the same as a 2nd Gen Camaro/Firebird.

The 68-74 uses 1st gen F body up front, I want to say both used first gen F body rear suspension. 75-79 Cadillac Seville is similar to the X cars but a longer wheelbase.

Also, being spread out over so many makes means many (all? Not sure on Cadillac or the bigger BOP motors) period GM V8s are a drop in deal.

Nitroracer
Nitroracer UltraDork
7/6/17 8:59 p.m.

If you're looking for an older muscle sedan just see what platform it shares parts with. My old fairlane shared enough with Mustangs and Torinos to have some cool parts available while still being plenty affordable.

pres589
pres589 PowerDork
7/6/17 9:04 p.m.

There's always the GM g-body;

Yeah it's a wagon, so what? I regret nothing. These also came in "ute" format.

ClemSparks
ClemSparks PowerDork
7/6/17 9:47 p.m.

4 doors aren't my first choice (I prefer 2 doors first and Wagons after that) but we have had some fun in our '65 Skylark. It's not a "muscle" car but just as well could be with a little time, and a lot of money.

The best thing about the 4 doors is they are cheap. Besides aesthetics this car is mechanically identical to its 2 door brothers and cousins (Chevelle, Cutlass, Monte Carlo...whatever Pontiac's version was) as far as I known. I think they were even the same wheel base. I KNOW the G-body 4 doors shared the same wheelbase as 2 doors (and wagons).

Falconater
Falconater None
7/7/17 3:48 a.m.

It's not a 4 door but in my garage you'll see my 68 falcon. It'll be done up yellow and black. I ordered the stripe kit from down under a few years back (had it cut for 2 door). I can't figure out pics.

stan
stan UltraDork
7/7/17 7:02 a.m.

Jumper K. Balls has one of the few 4-door older cars I like, also a Falcon.

MadScientistMatt
MadScientistMatt PowerDork
7/7/17 8:10 a.m.

I'd say Dodge Dart, but I'm biased. So I'll also post pictures of them. :D

This one's a 1964. Looks a bit more turbine car than muscle car for the '63-'65 model years.

After 1966, they started getting a bit more like a traditional muscle car.

WilD
WilD Dork
7/7/17 10:14 a.m.

+1 on the Dart. Make mine a 1962. it will need some hot rodding to be truly muscle, but LOOK AT IT!

Ricky Spanish
Ricky Spanish Reader
7/7/17 11:34 a.m.

M5

Chevy SS

Pretty much every AMG

yupididit
yupididit Dork
7/7/17 7:43 p.m.

In reply to Keith Tanner:

That white caprice. OMG

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner MegaDork
7/7/17 7:53 p.m.
yupididit wrote: In reply to Keith Tanner: That white caprice. OMG

It's a terrible thing. It's hard to imagine planning a Caprice build that isn't just a carbon copy because it's just so good.

https://bangshift.com/category/general-news/project-cars/bangshiftprojects/buford/

conesare2seconds
conesare2seconds Dork
7/7/17 8:02 p.m.

I love Prject Buford but it really seems to have lost momentum in the last couple of years. Used to love to see its progress.

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