W8 with so many red flags $900 Jax FL NMNA

https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/d/2002-vw-passat-w8/6402921055.html

Engine donor?

I'd love to see someone hook one of these up to an old 4 speed and run 8 motorcycle  ITBs.

In reply to Stampie :

Will that bolt to KyAllroad's cheap tranny? 

"It wouldn't be hard to get a (clean) title for it thru the previous owner"

If it's on the interwebz it must be true.

Pete Gossett said:

In reply to Stampie :

Will that bolt to KyAllroad's cheap tranny? 

"Probably" 

VW, likes to keep things the same so parts bin engineering can work, but no guarantees.

Won't go into drive, doesn't mean the same as doesn't go in drive.   Maybe it's just a linkage problem.

Pete Gossett said:

In reply to Stampie :

Will that bolt to KyAllroad's cheap tranny? 

I know nothing of VW/Audi other than you have to put them into "service position" to do about anything. That sounds to be on the level of bend over and grab your ankles. 

KyAllroad (Jeremy) said:

Pete Gossett said:

In reply to Stampie :

Will that bolt to KyAllroad's cheap tranny? 

"Probably" 

VW, likes to keep things the same so parts bin engineering can work, but no guarantees.

I'll guarantee that at least one bolt lines up. 

Stampie said:

KyAllroad (Jeremy) said:

Pete Gossett said:

In reply to Stampie :

Will that bolt to KyAllroad's cheap tranny? 

"Probably" 

VW, likes to keep things the same so parts bin engineering can work, but no guarantees.

I'll guarantee that at least one bolt lines up. 

After seeing the washers holding the starter on Tim's FV project, I think one bolt and a few washers would be good enough for you. Besides, if you use solid mounts for the engine & trans, do they really still need to be physically bolted together?

You need this Stampie, it has your special brand of GRM all over it.

Stampie said:

KyAllroad (Jeremy) said:

Pete Gossett said:

In reply to Stampie :

Will that bolt to KyAllroad's cheap tranny? 

"Probably" 

VW, likes to keep things the same so parts bin engineering can work, but no guarantees.

I'll guarantee that at least one bolt lines up. 

Johnny Cash did it with an "Adaptic kit".

Pete Gossett said:

Stampie said:

KyAllroad (Jeremy) said:

Pete Gossett said:

In reply to Stampie :

Will that bolt to KyAllroad's cheap tranny? 

"Probably" 

VW, likes to keep things the same so parts bin engineering can work, but no guarantees.

I'll guarantee that at least one bolt lines up. 

After seeing the washers holding the starter on Tim's FV project, I think one bolt and a few washers would be good enough for you. Besides, if you use solid mounts for the engine & trans, do they really still need to be physically bolted together?

You need this Stampie, it has your special brand of GRM all over it.

I translate that to mean my special brand is rigged to hell. 

In reply to Stampie :

No...let's call it "creative."

The assortment of tools and boxes around the car don’t at all give the “I just stopped working on it and gave up” look....

W8 + Europa = Awesome!

dherr said:

W8 + Europa = Awesome!

It certainly wouldn't run any less than a stock one. 

Looking at pics of the engine and trans mounted up shows it to be such a tidy package. It's a shame they had so many troubles. It seems that VW never sold any internal bottom end parts like bearings, connecting rod bolts, etc. so rebuilds are impossible. It really looks like a neat way to shove 8 cylinders into a small mid-engined car.

The W8 was nice for it's time, but the later motors are better. I was working as a service writer at a VW dealership and we had a customer with a W8 that ALWAYS had problems. Because of that I probably drove his car about 500 miles between visits. He later bought the next generation 3.6l 4motion Passat and the power of that blew away the W8. 

dculberson said:

Looking at pics of the engine and trans mounted up shows it to be such a tidy package. It's a shame they had so many troubles. It seems that VW never sold any internal bottom end parts like bearings, connecting rod bolts, etc. so rebuilds are impossible. It really looks like a neat way to shove 8 cylinders into a small mid-engined car.

I think you should make a renault fighter out of a golf....

In reply to Robbie :

I was thinking more like Europa or - what would something like this look like with a W8 in it?

In reply to dculberson :

I'll accept it

Stampie said:

Pete Gossett said:

In reply to Stampie :

Will that bolt to KyAllroad's cheap tranny? 

I know nothing of VW/Audi other than you have to put them into "service position" to do about anything. That sounds to be on the level of bend over and grab your ankles. 

Actually the service position is quite handy. You replace two of the bolts with long shouldered bolts, remove the rest and the entire rad support c/w everything moves forward without disconnecting anything.

That being said B5 Passat with a drivetrain known to be unreliable? NOPE - not even for free.

In reply to NGTD :

How long does it take to do that the first time and then with experience?  I remember seeing an Audi A4 at a tow auction with a bad alternator. After seeing that you couldn't replace it without doing service position I passed. 

In reply to Stampie : The service position took me an hour to figure out the first time.  You have to remove the turn signals, grill, bumper skin, and a bit more.  Then remove the big bolts and slide the radiator support forward 6".

BTW, the alternator is slightly larger than the hole this then gives you and requires another 2 hours of cursing Germany and all things German to remove and an equal amount of time to jam the new alternator into place.  All very frustrating and by FAR the most idiotically placed alternator I've done.

In reply to KyAllroad (Jeremy) :

Good thing I passed then. I can cuss in Spanish and Korean but not German.