Grtechguy
Grtechguy UltimaDork
5/26/15 8:33 a.m.

Yeah, I posted it a week ago with the thought of maybe selling it. Well, the cheap engine I swapped in decided to self-destruct right be for the weekend. It will run long enough to put on a trailer, but thats about it.

New snow tires (fronts) last fall and good all-seasons on rear.

Needs out of my driveway in the next month or so.

Knurled
Knurled UltimaDork
5/26/15 9:50 p.m.

2.2 Ecotec?

Grtechguy
Grtechguy UltimaDork
5/27/15 6:34 a.m.

Correct.

Mike
Mike Dork
5/27/15 6:37 a.m.

Where is it?

Grtechguy
Grtechguy UltimaDork
5/27/15 7:08 a.m.

Grand Rapids, Mi

Gearheadotaku
Gearheadotaku PowerDork
5/27/15 8:03 p.m.

didn't know they offered the manual that year. They got rid of a lot of the cladding and made that car look nicer too.

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard Associate Editor
5/27/15 8:14 p.m.

Any idea what's up with the engine? I'm assuming no major ventilation?

Bearded.Bird
Bearded.Bird Reader
5/28/15 7:33 a.m.

I didnt know they made 5-speed grand ams, at all. I wish you were closer. But SMWBO is glad you're not.

Grtechguy
Grtechguy UltimaDork
5/28/15 2:19 p.m.

No major ventilation, but running extremely rough and almost no power. I can start it and move it around. But, pretty much have to floor it to move.

We are replacing the wife's minivan and I might start driving the old. On the fence about finding another cheap engine and tossing it in. But not sure if I really want to. It is a nice little ride and got 27mpg running 75ish on the freeway.

JohnRW1621
JohnRW1621 UltimaDork
5/28/15 3:47 p.m.

Running rough and no power...
On an Ecotec I would first look at replacing the coil pack and ignition control module.

The black is the coil. The silver is the ignition control module.

My Saturn Vue has the same engine. The first time it happened to me, it was running rough, erratic and seemed low on power as if it was not running on all cylinders. I swapped in a JY version and all was better. It happened again recently and sure enough, swap in another used version and good to go.

I think I paid $40 for the combined unit, like pictured. I was not sure which part was bad, I just swapped in both.

I just looked. The first one I put in was at 186k miles (I bought it with 140k) the second was at 225k.

Here is some that I have written on the topic in the past:
http://www.saturnfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200473

4cylndrfury
4cylndrfury MegaDork
5/28/15 4:21 p.m.

I had a similar issue with a cavalier with the 2.2 - Ignition module fixed it, just like John said. At first, it was running on 3 cylinders, the miss had the whole thing shaking. About 2 minutes later it lost another, and it would barely move. PITA location on the cavalier, my wrists have never been the same...

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