bdouglas
bdouglas New Reader
4/14/13 7:25 p.m.

NMNA

http://fortmyers.craigslist.org/chl/bar/3741243249.html

yamaha
yamaha UltraDork
4/14/13 8:13 p.m.

Well, that's an unusual sight......I rarely see those anymore with the capability of running.....

spitfirebill
spitfirebill UberDork
4/15/13 10:00 a.m.

Those are handsome motors. Too bad GM put their typical R&D into it.

Spinout007
Spinout007 SuperDork
4/15/13 10:22 a.m.

They will go the way of the LT5 soon enough. No one will touch them, due to the rarity/complexity of em.

e_pie
e_pie HalfDork
4/15/13 10:45 a.m.
spitfirebill wrote: Those are handsome motors. Too bad GM put their typical R&D into it.

Yup those could have really been something if they had, easily on par with the 1UZ.

yamaha
yamaha UltraDork
4/15/13 11:38 a.m.
Spinout007 wrote: They will go the way of the LT5 soon enough. No one will touch them, due to the rarity/complexity of em.

They have already gone that way.....I still believe the 3.4L v8 from the 96-99 sho's were a better done engine, even with their cam issue.

Knurled
Knurled UltraDork
4/15/13 1:07 p.m.
Spinout007 wrote: They will go the way of the LT5 soon enough. No one will touch them, due to the rarity/complexity of em.

We'll work on 'em, the owners are usually too cheap though.

Fixing the bedplate oil leak requires removing the transmission, for example. The only one I ever did had the trans out for other reasons.

e_pie
e_pie HalfDork
4/15/13 3:07 p.m.
yamaha wrote:
Spinout007 wrote: They will go the way of the LT5 soon enough. No one will touch them, due to the rarity/complexity of em.
They have already gone that way.....I still believe the 3.4L v8 from the 96-99 sho's were a better done engine, even with their cam issue.

That was a really strange engine.

yamaha
yamaha UltraDork
4/15/13 4:14 p.m.

In reply to e_pie: Only a 3L duratec v6 with 2 extra holes.

e_pie
e_pie HalfDork
4/15/13 4:28 p.m.

Are there any manual transmissions that would bolt up to it?

Spinout007
Spinout007 SuperDork
4/15/13 5:42 p.m.

I remember something about a modified S10 T5 fitting, I'm sure there is something in Fwd too.

Strike_Zero
Strike_Zero Dork
4/15/13 6:10 p.m.

I believe it shares the 60* bolt pattern. You have make provisions (cut a small area at the top of the bellhousing) for the valley mounte starter. I think chrfab has a cast bellhousing for it.

Knurled
Knurled UltraDork
4/15/13 6:39 p.m.
Strike_Zero wrote: I believe it shares the 60* bolt pattern.

Yep. Basically, every transverse GM that isn't a DOHC four uses the 60 degree pattern.

Nashco
Nashco UberDork
4/15/13 7:05 p.m.
Knurled wrote:
Strike_Zero wrote: I believe it shares the 60* bolt pattern.
Yep. Basically, every transverse GM that isn't a DOHC four uses the 60 degree pattern.

...and then a bunch of longitudinal ones as well, just to be clear. LOTS of transmissions bolt up to that engine, both manual and automagic.

Bryce

pres589
pres589 SuperDork
4/15/13 7:09 p.m.
Spinout007 wrote: They will go the way of the LT5 soon enough. No one will touch them, due to the rarity/complexity of em.

What's wrong with the LT5 inre: longevity? They seem pretty cool to me, having never touched one, so I know nothing really.

Knurled
Knurled UltraDork
4/15/13 7:42 p.m.
Nashco wrote:
Knurled wrote: Yep. Basically, every transverse GM that isn't a DOHC four uses the 60 degree pattern.
...and then a bunch of longitudinal ones as well, just to be clear. LOTS of transmissions bolt up to that engine, both manual and automagic.

Verily. What I meant was, every transverse GM engine. The only transverse bellhousing patterns are 60 degree and Quad 4 (I think, but am unsure, that Ecotec is a variant)

So find a RWD trans application for a 60 degree V6 or engines that they never bothered to make a RWD casting for (2.2 or 3800 Series II) and you're in business. Those ones will have a left-side starter pocket vs. the RWD blocks' all having right-side, although for the starter-in-valley engines it should not matter.

Spinout007
Spinout007 SuperDork
4/15/13 8:20 p.m.
pres589 wrote:
Spinout007 wrote: They will go the way of the LT5 soon enough. No one will touch them, due to the rarity/complexity of em.
What's wrong with the LT5 inre: longevity? They seem pretty cool to me, having never touched one, so I know nothing really.

It's a DOHC 350, not a darn thing, but fitting it in an anything but a ZR1 requires a truck sized engine bay due to the width of the engine. I SERIOUSLY looked into swapping one into my 3rd gen camaro with a T56, but it would have required cutting into the shock towers.

yamaha
yamaha UltraDork
4/16/13 12:26 p.m.

In reply to Spinout007:

They run really nice though......I loved the valet key in front of the shifter proclaiming "Engine Power" followed by 2 selections on the rotation...."Normal" and "Full" Needless to say, first thing I did was switch it to full......

Spinout007
Spinout007 SuperDork
4/16/13 3:44 p.m.

In reply to yamaha:

Grtechguy
Grtechguy UltimaDork
4/16/13 5:01 p.m.

If these are the INDY packaged engines, they were modified by Shelby and are worth more than $500 easily, But most likely are the stock L47.

That being said, I would have loved one a year ago when my Aurora puked it's guts all over I-69 in Lansing.

e_pie
e_pie HalfDork
4/16/13 5:20 p.m.
Grtechguy wrote: If these are the INDY packaged engines, they were modified by Shelby and are worth more than $500 easily, But most likely are the stock L47. That being said, I would have loved one a year ago when my Aurora puked it's guts all over I-69 in Lansing.

That's right I forgot about the roots those engines had.

GM did some weird halfbaked stuff in the 90's that had so much squandered potential.

racerfink
racerfink SuperDork
4/16/13 5:57 p.m.

Wow. Right in my backyard, but the ad is already gone...

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