chief8one
chief8one New Reader
7/9/13 1:56 a.m.

http://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/3919999453.html

Fueled by Caffeine
Fueled by Caffeine MegaDork
7/9/13 5:50 a.m.

Ahh the engine that ruined diesels for 'murica. Can't you convert to gas and isn't the block really strong?

JohnRW1621
JohnRW1621 PowerDork
7/9/13 6:15 a.m.

I like the seller's writing style.

Toyman01
Toyman01 PowerDork
7/9/13 7:00 a.m.

Great add. Not so great a car. I have seen one with 400K on it though. It took 3 sets of heads to get it there.

Knurled
Knurled UberDork
7/9/13 7:21 a.m.
Fueled by Caffeine wrote: Ahh the engine that ruined diesels for 'murica.

I thought generally being slow, stinky, and expensive ruined them for 'murica.

I mean, the F-85 didn't ruin turbos for us, did it?

petegossett
petegossett UberDork
7/9/13 7:37 a.m.
Knurled wrote: I mean, the F-85 didn't ruin turbos for us, did it?

Only for about 20-years.

conesare2seconds
conesare2seconds Reader
7/9/13 10:37 a.m.

The DX block is the one to have. Yes, it can be converted to gas. For half of what he's asking it would be interesing.

Flight Service
Flight Service MegaDork
7/9/13 10:50 a.m.

NMNA?

Not Mine Not Atlanta?

Fueled by Caffeine
Fueled by Caffeine MegaDork
7/9/13 11:38 a.m.
Knurled wrote:
Fueled by Caffeine wrote: Ahh the engine that ruined diesels for 'murica.
I thought generally being slow, stinky, and expensive ruined them for 'murica. I mean, the F-85 didn't ruin turbos for us, did it?

This was a gas engine hastily converted to diesel. They blew up constantly.

The 350 diesel is widely credited with ruining diesels for America.

Knurled
Knurled UberDork
7/9/13 1:02 p.m.
Fueled by Caffeine wrote: This was a gas engine hastily converted to diesel. They blew up constantly. The 350 diesel is widely credited with ruining diesels for America.

The F-85 was a high compression engine hastily converted to turbo power by relying on water injection.

psteav
psteav Dork
7/9/13 2:41 p.m.
chief8one wrote: NMNA

And that's probably the way it should stay for all of us.

tuna55
tuna55 PowerDork
7/9/13 2:43 p.m.
Fueled by Caffeine wrote: The crappy diesel and careless maintenance is widely credited with ruining diesels for America.
The_Jed
The_Jed SuperDork
7/9/13 6:00 p.m.

I wonder how hard a 6.2/6.5 swap would be?

Kenny_McCormic
Kenny_McCormic SuperDork
7/9/13 8:15 p.m.
tuna55 wrote:
Fueled by Caffeine wrote: The crappy diesel and careless maintenance is widely credited with ruining diesels for America.

As I recall, they didn't come with jack squat for diesel fuel filtration/water separation from the factory out of fear people would bitch about clogged filters. Which killed a lot of injection systems.

And maintenance has nothing to do with inadequate head gasket design and clamping.

Fueled by Caffeine
Fueled by Caffeine MegaDork
7/9/13 8:42 p.m.

http://www.hemmings.com/hmn/stories/2009/09/01/hmn_feature24.html

Yup. The publics fault.

OSUdieselguy
OSUdieselguy None
7/10/13 8:39 a.m.
Fueled by Caffeine wrote: http://www.hemmings.com/hmn/stories/2009/09/01/hmn_feature24.html Yup. The publics fault.

Thanks for the article link.

Cotton
Cotton SuperDork
7/10/13 10:30 a.m.
Fueled by Caffeine wrote: http://www.hemmings.com/hmn/stories/2009/09/01/hmn_feature24.html Yup. The publics fault.

so it isn't a converted gas engine like most think....interesting.

Flight Service
Flight Service MegaDork
7/10/13 10:57 a.m.
Cotton wrote:
Fueled by Caffeine wrote: http://www.hemmings.com/hmn/stories/2009/09/01/hmn_feature24.html Yup. The publics fault.
so it isn't a converted gas engine like most think....interesting.

From the parts list it sounds like they just beefed up the current parts at the time. Not a straight convert perse but not a fresh sheet - designed as a diesel engine.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla UberDork
7/11/13 1:37 p.m.

The #1 problem was weak head bolts. IIRC they used the same head bolts from the gas engines that were running 8:1 compression on diesel with 18:1 comp. so yeah, head gaskets blew, over heated and cracked a ton of heads. There are a lot if guys running turbos on their 350 diesel along with copper head gaskets and ARP studs.

bravenrace
bravenrace UltimaDork
7/11/13 1:46 p.m.
Fueled by Caffeine wrote:
Knurled wrote:
Fueled by Caffeine wrote: Ahh the engine that ruined diesels for 'murica.
I thought generally being slow, stinky, and expensive ruined them for 'murica. I mean, the F-85 didn't ruin turbos for us, did it?
This was a gas engine hastily converted to diesel. They blew up constantly. The 350 diesel is widely credited with ruining diesels for America.

Some aspects of it's design were similar to the gas engine, but it shared no parts. The best you can say is that it was loosely based on the gas engine, but it wasn't a converted gas engine like many have perpetuated over the years.

RossD
RossD PowerDork
7/11/13 3:35 p.m.

Holy Cow, a 10 hp starter!

Who had plans/ideas for a starter motor go kart?

Rock Auto has some for around $120

Kenny_McCormic
Kenny_McCormic SuperDork
7/11/13 3:49 p.m.

In reply to RossD:

Duty cycle.

Spinout007
Spinout007 SuperDork
7/11/13 5:59 p.m.

There was a guy on a truck board that had used ARP studs and MLS head gaskets on one of those dropped in a extended cab C1500 supposedly knocking down mid 30's in the mpg department. I'm sure there was more work but, dang most people throw those away or scrap em. I would love one to play with.

Gearheadotaku
Gearheadotaku UltraDork
7/12/13 8:45 a.m.

Fix the A/C and have a great hwy car. Stealth gray would never raise Jonny Law's eyebrow.

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