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EvanB
EvanB PowerDork
6/13/13 2:55 p.m.
Knurled wrote:
EvanB wrote: Only one? It will be fine.
Yeah, there's like five of them. That's quadruple redundancy!

I once drove from Ashland to Toledo and back towing a trailer, with a MG Midget on the way back in a 3/4 truck with a 4.3 V6 with bad main bearings knocking like crazy. It was it fine. Who needs oil pressure anyway.

chandlerGTi
chandlerGTi Dork
6/13/13 7:39 p.m.

Did anyone buy this already?

EvanB
EvanB PowerDork
6/13/13 7:45 p.m.

I would have bought it if I had a way to get it back.

chandlerGTi
chandlerGTi Dork
6/13/13 8:40 p.m.

You have AAA? Tell them it broke down and you need towed home. 100 miles for free, .50$ each mile after. Cheaper than driving there.

Brett_Murphy
Brett_Murphy SuperDork
6/13/13 9:11 p.m.

In reply to Knurled:

Ehhh... getting it to work as a track car or something isn't probably that hard.

Doing a 6 speed swap into an automatic and getting it to pass an ODBII inspection is something else entirely- which is what I was talking about. Kevin Landers did one, and for all of the work he did, you're just better off buying a manual car in the first place.

Luke
Luke UberDork
6/13/13 11:28 p.m.

^Even if your starting point costs less than a grand?

Bobzilla
Bobzilla UberDork
6/14/13 7:16 a.m.
chandlerGTi wrote: Did anyone buy this already?

It's getting picked up Sat, and money has already changed hands if I understand correctly.

fidelity101
fidelity101 Dork
6/14/13 12:26 p.m.
SlickDizzy wrote:
fidelity101 wrote: bah its auto. pass. weaker engine components. not worth it.
But the engine is bad anyway...?

Like a piston engine in a minor overhaul you can re use crank, pistons and etc but the 4port (auto trans) renesis motors have some cheaper major components which can be re-used but they're not as good as the 6port (manual transmission) which would make a rebuild more expensive and complicated and the auto trans setup is its own hurdle, (firewall, manual swap, block variation, internal components, intake manifold variation) its much easier to start with a manual for these reasons.

who ever buys this I would be interested in the blown engine to tear down FYI possible utilize the rotating assembly :)

fidelity101
fidelity101 Dork
6/14/13 12:30 p.m.
EvanB wrote:
Knurled wrote:
EvanB wrote: Only one? It will be fine.
Yeah, there's like five of them. That's quadruple redundancy!
I once drove from Ashland to Toledo and back towing a trailer, with a MG Midget on the way back in a 3/4 truck with a 4.3 V6 with bad main bearings knocking like crazy. It was it fine. Who needs oil pressure anyway.

Remember when I drove the burban down to the 2 day rallyX in Ohio. Well that trip put on about 500 towing miles, popped 2 radiator hoses and the block had a crack between cyl 2 and 4 so bad that the gasses were erroding the headbolt right there too.

but we made it home! somehow...

CGLockRacer
CGLockRacer Dork
6/14/13 12:52 p.m.

In reply to Bobzilla:

So who got it? I want my finder's fee

Bobzilla
Bobzilla UberDork
6/14/13 12:59 p.m.

I want a finders fee! It was one of the guys that worked here, that went back to his old job.

From what I've heard, he already has a 6.0L iron block engine and a 78mm turbo ready to drop in.

Brett_Murphy
Brett_Murphy SuperDork
6/14/13 8:50 p.m.

In reply to Luke:

Yes. Seriously. It is probably just as much work to get an LSx working properly than to do an auto to manual conversion in a 2004-2006 RX-8 to pass emissions inspection. For example, you'd have to convince somebody from Mazda to program a manual ECU with your automatic VIN number or somehow Megasquirt it using maps that you'd develop all by yourself from square one.

Maybe it is simple, but it is pretty uncharted territory, having been done once as far as I know.

Knurled
Knurled UltraDork
6/14/13 10:16 p.m.
fidelity101 wrote: Remember when I drove the burban down to the 2 day rallyX in Ohio. Well that trip put on about 500 towing miles, popped 2 radiator hoses and the block had a crack between cyl 2 and 4 so bad that the gasses were erroding the headbolt right there too. but we made it home! somehow...

And just think, if you'd have just driven the RX-7 you'd have been fine...

wlkelley3
wlkelley3 SuperDork
6/15/13 11:19 p.m.
Knurled wrote:
Brett_Murphy wrote: Doing a manual swap is possible, but it isn't simple, it is almost like swapping a completely different engine in there.
Can't be too bad, can it? Maybe have to alter the firewall and do some metal work in the tunnel. Of course, the car needs a peripheral port 13B anyway.

Actually more involved than just transmission. Autotragic RX8 engines are different than manual - something about less ports. 4-port vs 6-port (I think). Also the wheels and brakes are different, smaller brakes on the autotragic. Manual trans cars have 18" wheels and AT cars have either 15" or 16", I forget. The AT wheels won't fit over the rotors of a MT RX8. Same bolt pattern so it works the other way, you can put the 18" on the AT car.

Knurled
Knurled UberDork
6/16/13 7:45 a.m.

I knew about the engine but the brakes is interesting. Be nice to start with an automatic car, then, since big wheels are dumb. I have no problems whoa-ing down a car more powerful and that heavy with 9" rotors, why would I want something that has brakes so huge that it requires fugly 18" wheels?

I fail to see what the engine or brakes has to do with the physical act of changing the transmission, though...

singleslammer
singleslammer Dork
6/16/13 10:33 a.m.

In reply to Knurled:

I imagine that you can get a decent set of 17s over the bigger brakes. I have always felt too much brake is better than not enough and considering this appears to be going towards an LSX (super excited by that) the front end is going to be getting quite a bit heavier.

klipless
klipless Reader
6/17/13 9:43 a.m.
singleslammer wrote: In reply to Knurled: I imagine that you can get a decent set of 17s over the bigger brakes.

That you can. My snow tires are mounted on 17" wheels and they fit over the brakes just fine. I think the OEM 18" are actually quite handsome. Different strokes I guess.

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