$2015 Challenge entry - 88 Accord LXi

tuna55 wrote:

volvoclearinghouse wrote: All things considered, it sounds like you're still lucking out. No major internal damage. Are you going to do any valve seat cleanup or just put it back together with new pistons/ rings/ valve seals?

I'd like to do valve and seat lapping, but I am not sure I can fit it in the budget. I may do the quickie lap with the compound in situ. Not sure yet. I'd love a good three angle job, but I don't even know where to look.

Highly recommend the quicky suction dart valve job with compound. It's almost free, and doesn't take very long.

Agreed. You can cut and mount the wood handle suction cup wand in a hand drill and it makes it super easy.

If you are installing new rings you should give the cylinders a quick hone to break the glaze so the new rings will seat. Ball hone works well or you can borrow a 3 stone one from Autozone. Just don’t make too many passes with the stone one.

PseudoSport wrote: If you are installing new rings you should give the cylinders a quick hone to break the glaze so the new rings will seat. Ball hone works well or you can barrow a 3 stone one from Autozone. Just don’t make too many passes with the stone one.

So what do I do with the chips? Wash like crazy-man when I am done?

Is the block going to be in or out of the car? When I honed the block on my 280Z it was still in the car I placed some rags in the bottom of the bore I was honing to catch to catch the metal and stone crud. I honed with ATF then wiped the bores clean with a white rag and ATF. Keep wiping till the rag come out with just clean ATF. I then pull the bottom rags and give the cylinder and bottom end a quick wash with brake clean just incase. I’m sure everyone has a slightly different way of doing things but this has worked for me and that Datsun engine is still going strong a few years later. Before the new rings it was filling my whole yard with blue smoke when it ran.

If you don't own a dingleberry hone you should. The 3 stone ones are crap.

In reply to moparman76_69: No E36 M3. Bought a 3 stone hone to break the glaze for my SR20 refresh, broke 2 of the stones on the 3rd cylinder. Damn replacement stones cost half as much as the entire tool. Next time it's a dingleberry hone for me..

My students learn to hone on my dead engines with the 3-stone. For an engine that is going to run again, I use the ball hone (dingleberry?).

DINGLEBERRY OR BUST!!11!!!

In reply to SkinnyG:

I guess its technically called a flex-hone. But my dad called them dingleberry hones and I refuse to call them anything else.

I'm just embracing my more juvenile side and giggling every time I read dingleberry.

Nothing to add to the conversation as we are well beyond my knowledge level.

I think "no-hone" is winning unless I see bad spots when the pistons come out. Hondas crosshatches will work for me.

tuna55 wrote: I think "no-hone" is winning unless I see bad spots when the pistons come out. Hondas crosshatches will work for me.

For a second, I read no-home" is winning and as wondering here to claim the prize!

I take it the leak-down tester was not an option to determine here the pressure was coming from?

The 89 Civic I did this same E36 M3ty job on had TTY bolts Tuna.

PS - If you need any of the valve cover acorn nuts, I have a whole box of them. Only way I could get 1.

What's the mileage? The only issue I see with no-hone is the new rings (especially the oil ring) not bedding in and having an awful amount of blow-by as a result.

Always hone with new rings. Always.*

Unless it has nikasil or similar, and Honda was an early adopter.

tuna55 wrote: Not sure yet. I'd love a good three angle job, but I don't even know where to look.

I can help with that

f6sk wrote:

tuna55 wrote: Not sure yet. I'd love a good three angle job, but I don't even know where to look.

I can help with that

Ooh tempting.

Let me figure out some logistics (it's a big day trip).

I got as far as getting the oil pan off last night. Unfortunately I cannot take it off of the car because the trsnsmission crossmember is in the way. I don't currently own a jack and I didn't have time last night to rig sonething up.

Should I put a spare jack in your pile?

You coming up to autofair this year?

The transmission crossmember can be pulled without a jack. The other mounts hold the engine and transmission fine.

Derick Freese wrote: The transmission crossmember can be pulled without a jack. The other mounts hold the engine and transmission fine.

Sweet!!

Dusterbd13 wrote: Should I put a spare jack in your pile? You coming up to autofair this year?

Not planning on it.

I really just need to bite the bullet and buy a jack instead of waiting for a deal.

Junkyard_Dog wrote: Always hone with new rings. Always.* Unless it has nikasil or similar, and Honda was an early adopter.

I have heard the opposite from people I also respect. Not sure now. You know it's an iron block?

I wish I was not coughing a lung out due to the pollen...

You coulda borrowed my jack then...Though I did use it to lift up my deck today to install an extra column...