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captainawesome
captainawesome Dork
5/10/24 11:41 a.m.

We've had a lot of rain lately and when we have had decent weather I've no time to ride. So no jetting, tuning, or riding has happened. Soon though, very soon.

Anyway, I've kinda had an idea in my head as to the metrics I would like this bike to meet up with. I figure a power to weight ratio similar to or exceeding that of a bike I probably should have just bought new. Like a Royal Enfield Interceptor 650. Not an even comparison but not as far apart in spec as you would think.

The kz400 in weight weight is ~400lbs wet. Power is around 36hp/24tq for the 400 and 41hp/26tq for the 440.

The RE 650 is 470lbs with fuel and 42hp/38tq. I think torque is going to be the biggest difference besides weight but we will ignore that for now.

Last night I put the bike on scales and was surprised to see only 334 pounds with roughly 2 gallons of fuel. So I have lost close to 70 pounds, possibly more depending on if the ~400 pound number included fuel. I'm pretty happy with that. Add in a 440 top end, and I'm well above power to weight ratio of the 650. I also have weight that could be shed further if I felt so inclined. The centerstand, lighter exhaust, foot pegs, 520 chain conversion, seat, etc. would add up to another 10 or more pounds? Maybe 20? Don't know if I'll bother with that but a 440 top end has been a future plan regardless.

Just thought that was a neat comparison that's completely meaningless for what I'll use the bike for but still fun to do.

 

 

captainawesome
captainawesome Dork
6/3/24 9:14 a.m.

Back at it with the kz400. This weekend I wanted to start the official jetting process. Gotta take your time and do things in the right order and change one thing at a time. I struggled with the first part due to a few little hiccups stacking up.

First was the bike cut out on me a couple times. I didn't think much of it but usually out of habit the first thing I do is switch the petcock to reserve. No more cutting out. Of course I thought this was related to me messing with the mixture circuit and nothing to do with the fuel level because there seemed to be quite a bit still sloshing around when I cracked open the cap. WRONG. After parking and giving everything a once over I checked the tank again. Not empty but at the reserve line.

Next up was the fuel line fitment. When I first installed the line it was snug but after having some fuel and heat it started to swell just enough to not get a good seal which was causing flow issues. Stepped down a hair on ID of fuel line and now we are in business.

I decided to double check my timing with a light which drug me down another rabbit hole. On the left cylinder I get a beautiful light signal that grows with intensity to redline but on the right the light would break up a little and worsen to redline. I think this is due to polarity of the coil leads? Either way I swapped back to an old coil to double check, and confirmed it happens with both. Swapping caps didn't change anything and I think when the leads were swapped the issue changed sides. It took more time than I wanted to, but I felt like tinkering and getting everything solid.

Next up was a run down the road to check my mixture settings. I got about 5 miles out and felt some intermittent sputter. Decided to turn back for it to shut off on me. I could tell there wasn't spark but then out of nowhere it would start running again, get my hopes up and right as I was about to get on the road die again. Called the wife and had her bring the old coil, new plugs, etc. to fiddle with. Swapped plugs and thought I was good to go since they looked a little wet. I assumed it was just fouled on the right sight which has had a little more blue smoke from valve seal leakage(I think). Still didn't fix it so I decided to try and swap the coil back to an old one. That's where I found the culprit. One of the bullet connectors on the coil lead was way too loose and losing it's connection. I crimped it back tight with pliers and was good to go!

Mixture screw set 1.5-2 turns seems ideal so I decided to see where the needle settings would take me. I couldn't quite tell if I was rich or lean so I decided to move it down to the bottom clip and go rich first. The sputter I felt before was amplified by a million so now I need to lean it out. Moved the clip to the top and it's considerably better. Looks like I may need to lean down on the needle jet to an O8.

With the mid range feeling decent I thought it might be a good idea to run the same rich or lean experiment on the main. This time I decided to go leaner from a 180 to a 170 and it felt labored. Not like the fat rich feeling from the needle so I decided the safer bet would then to go to the biggest main I had available. Tossed in some 200 jets and it pulled considerably better. So I'm getting closer. Need to do some plug chops and top speed runs to confirm.

Current config:

6F9 jet needle - top clip (leaner side)

P0 needle jet - need to lean down a step?

25 pilot jet - may consider leaning down to a 20

200 main jet - may need to go up or down a hair

1.0 air jet

2.0 slide cutaway

2 full turns out on the mixture screw which is why I would consider leaner on the pilot

 

I also spent some time taking the MAJOR slack out of the cush drive system. Drivetrain takeup on throttle had a considerable delay and when I checked the "lash" of the cush drive it was about a 1/8" before engagement. See video below. I don't think they make new ones anymore, and after some reading saw mention of shimming the gaps with bike tubes. I got plenty of those and they did the trick! Much better now.

 

Recon1342
Recon1342 UltraDork
6/3/24 12:50 p.m.

Once these old bikes are tuned up and running properly, they perform amazingly well.

 

You have to enjoy the process to get there though (or be willing to pay someone who does).

 

Also- that bike tube trick is a great idea!

captainawesome
captainawesome Dork
6/3/24 1:51 p.m.

In reply to Recon1342 :

It's getting close to ideal, and this last little bit of effort will make a big difference in overall performance. As is, I think the average person would say it's good enough, but I'm considering a wideband to really dial it in.

Then it's on to front fork performance or at least firm it up a bit.

Tube trick worked out way better than expected and best of all was free. Just had a punctured tube laying around and finally found it's purpose. I would have never considered it if not for the wonderful internet.

captainawesome
captainawesome Dork
6/5/24 9:57 a.m.

Had a sobering moment yesterday morning. When checking the oil level of the bike I noticed some brake drag and noise. Upon inspection I found the caliper slid WAY down on the pivot with no clip securing it in place. WTF! Luckily nothing happened on my last ride and I didn't check to see if the caliper could slide completely off. Under compression of the forks it may have been nasty. I ordered up a new clip and lock washer but will double check it to make sure I do things in the right order. I don't recall how I put it together so there's a chance I made a pretty silly error.

Here's where it should be situated:

How I found it:

Here's what the clip and washer that secures it looks like:

Grunion
Grunion New Reader
6/5/24 10:39 p.m.
captainawesome
captainawesome Dork
9/2/24 8:58 p.m.

Got the brake caliper fixed a while back but the bike has just been sitting again. Decided to pull it out today for a spin and it wanted to be difficult getting started. Also sounds like the cam chain needs the tensioner adjusted. Probably going to put this up for sale within the next week or so, I just don't have the desire to ride enough and it's a good time to get it sold off. First thing first is to get it starting correctly again without troubles, possibly drop a jet size on the main, and send it onward with the new owner.

captainawesome
captainawesome Dork
9/4/24 1:28 p.m.

Got her running right again. Took a quick ride around the neighborhood with the 190 main jet. Think it's in a great spot right now, wouldn't change a thing. Rides like a dream other than maybe too soft front fork.

Kinda sucks to sell it but I know I'll just park it again for months and not ride it. My old riding buddies are no longer riding, and it's not as much fun going solo. No time to add this hobby back into my life anyway.
 

Snapped a few pics for the FB Market ad, figure I should close out this thread with the "finished" product.

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