Toyman01
Toyman01 UltimaDork
10/13/13 4:25 p.m.

This one is going to take a while. I'm thinking at least a year, maybe 2.

We are going to take one part this.

Add to several parts of this:

Add a dash of turbocharging and...

What we hopefully end up with is a 2000-2500 pound 350-400hp tame beast. The finished product will hopefully be a fun to drive weekend cruiser I would be willing to drive coast to coast. With that in mind, it will retain air conditioning, a full interior, a suspension that won't loosen fillings, and reasonable street manners. Knocking down 30mpg would be nice as well. It will also need to be blindingly quick.

The mechanics will happen first. The engine and transmission will be coming out of the Camaro. It's a 3.4L 60 degree V6. It will be getting the heads, intake and pistons out of a 3400 Gen 3 V6.

Time to get the wrenches dirty.

mazdeuce
mazdeuce SuperDork
10/13/13 4:27 p.m.

You officially have my interest.

Toyman01
Toyman01 UltimaDork
10/13/13 4:27 p.m.

Oh, and yes I know a LSx or 5.0 or 13b or countless other swaps would be easier and cheaper.

This should be funner and different is good. I hate following the crowd.

grafmiata
grafmiata SuperDork
10/13/13 5:57 p.m.
Toyman01 wrote: Oh, and yes I know a LSx or 5.0 or 13b or countless other swaps would be easier and cheaper. This should be funner and different is good. I hate following the crowd.

I applaud you for pushing the sticky-part of the envelope. I will be following this!!!

Jaxmadine
Jaxmadine HalfDork
10/13/13 6:38 p.m.

V6 ftw.

aussiesmg
aussiesmg MegaDork
10/13/13 8:18 p.m.

Nice, I will be watching as well.

5.0 FB owner

sethmeister4
sethmeister4 Dork
10/13/13 8:21 p.m.

Sweet! That has to be the best possible use of one of those Camaros! Looking forward to this!

Toyman01
Toyman01 UltimaDork
10/13/13 8:37 p.m.
sethmeister4 wrote: Sweet! That has to be the best possible use of one of those Camaros! Looking forward to this!

I drove it around today some. It's not a impressive machine. The engine is willing, but the car is pretty sucky. Granted it's got a good many miles on it.

Toyman01
Toyman01 UltimaDork
10/14/13 7:32 p.m.

I'm copying this from the Turbocharger Sizing Thread to keep it all together. It looks like I'm still in the planning stages.

OK, I did some more digging.

Flow chart for the 3.4 and the 3500 V6.

Apparently I need the 3500 heads, intake and plenum. The only problem there is that will put me at 11.5:1 CR using the 3.4 bottom end. That's probably a little high to be throwing boost on top. The quench also ends up at about .070. However, if I use the 3500 block and bottom end that will give me the forged crank as well as drop the CR to a more boost friendly 9.8:1

The 3500 is also 220-240 hp out the box. Kind of the easy button. It will necessitate building some funky mounts to put a FWD engine in a RWD car. Shouldn't be a problem though.

Junkyard_Dog
Junkyard_Dog Dork
10/14/13 8:23 p.m.

Check the bell housing patterns! IIRC the bell patterns were different for FWD vs.RWD and may require you stuff the 3500 internals into the 3.4 block. If that is even possible.

Toyman01
Toyman01 UltimaDork
10/14/13 8:43 p.m.

They are the same though the starter swaps sides. I'll need a bellhousing from a 2.2L S10 to put the starter bump where it needs to be.

JtspellS
JtspellS Dork
10/14/13 8:47 p.m.

Caught my interest, many many pics will be needed during the build!

Nashco
Nashco UberDork
10/14/13 8:54 p.m.

Another option is redrilling the FWD/transverse block for the RWD starter bolt pattern. Tons of people do this when putting RWD blocks into transverse applications and there is a pretty cheap tool to buy/rent for the job like this one:

http://rodneydickman.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=49&products_id=179

Of course, you're doing the opposite side of the block, but you get the jist...it's just a drill guide.

Bryce

Toyman01
Toyman01 UltimaDork
10/14/13 9:22 p.m.

In reply to Nashco:

That's a thought and wouldn't be too hard to do.

I need to stop by LKQ and see what they have on the yard. All of this would be a whole lot easier with a pile of parts sitting here to play with.

Dusterbd13
Dusterbd13 Dork
10/15/13 11:48 a.m.

yes!!

finally, someone giveing the respect deserved to the 60*v6.

and i always wanted to do a 3.4 with 3500 heads, decent cam, portwork, and ITB's.

even cooler to do it with a rx7

wvumtnbkr
wvumtnbkr SuperDork
11/29/16 9:53 a.m.

soooo, I want to do this with an FC. Any chance you ever got around to mating the engine and a trans together?

Got pics?

P.S. found this thread through the Digging up Hoffa thread.

dean1484
dean1484 MegaDork
1/1/17 5:05 p.m.

I would be curious if this ever happened. I was searching on "turbo" and stumbled on it.

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