mdshaw
mdshaw New Reader
10/27/13 1:40 a.m.

I'm picking my engine parts up from the machine shop Monday. A bored 75.5mm, decked, D16z6. With ARP equiped resized stock rods, NPR P29 pistons, micropolished crank & cut down OEM pulley, crank & 8lb flywheel balanced to 0.02 grams. The head is at a specialty Honda porter getting a serious porting, 3 angle, Supertech springs, new seals & guides. Then adding ACL bearings, 272 cam,60mm Tb port matched to intake & RDX 410cc injectors .This will be joined to a new SI carbon sycro lsd trans & it's all going into my '76 Civic which already has BCR coilovers, big front discs, rear discs & polyurethane bushings. The final compression will be @13-13.5:1. I will be getting it tuned but for the breakin I have some questions. I have a gas wideband meter & do I understand correctly that since e85 stoic is @ 9.5, when it says 14.7 which is for gas, since it's e85 it is actually 9.5 stoic is stoic. Or did I not understand what I was reading? I understand the 105 octane, better forgiveness for lean, @30% less energy hence the need for more compression, not sure about how to read the meter. I also need to get basemap to break it in before tuning.

DILYSI Dave
DILYSI Dave MegaDork
10/27/13 10:58 a.m.

See if you can set your meter to lamda. Less BS-ing with conversions.

Sounds like a nice build. Should do 150+ to the ground.

Knurled
Knurled UberDork
10/27/13 11:23 a.m.

As a rule of thumb, you can never have too much compression, just too little camshaft.

With a decent camshaft, 13.5 should be able to be run on pump 93 with those teeny tiny little bores.

mdshaw
mdshaw New Reader
10/27/13 11:32 a.m.

So if the meter is set to lamda, it would show lamda for the e85 which then should be @9.5. Looks like most leave it & tune for 14.7 then just tune to that.

Paul_VR6
Paul_VR6 HalfDork
10/27/13 9:42 p.m.

Converting gas to e85afrs can be a pain. Lambda is nice as you can think universally of it regardless of fuel type. 1 is stoich, less is rich and more is lean. .75-.85 is max power rich on that fuel, which on a gas cal wb is 11.5:1 give or take a little.

mdshaw
mdshaw New Reader
10/28/13 12:42 a.m.
Knurled wrote: As a rule of thumb, you can never have too much compression, just too little camshaft. With a decent camshaft, 13.5 should be able to be run on pump 93 with those teeny tiny little bores.

With e85 @ 13:1+ & the law of diminishing returns sets in. 11-13:1 is where the big gains are. Yes but where I live there is 91 & there are 2 stations with e85. So e85 it is.
I can set my AEM WB to Lambda so will be just like gas.
Yes 11.5 rich power seems to be the common opinion.

DILYSI Dave
DILYSI Dave MegaDork
10/28/13 6:44 a.m.

I tuned for .85 Lambda on my E85 D16 and advanced the timing until it stopped making power. Never did get knock, and that was boosted.

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