mtn
mtn MegaDork
12/20/10 2:42 p.m.

The check-engine light and traction control light came on Mom's 2007 4Runner today. She took it into the dealer, which has traditionally been very fair and good to us. They said we need a new Charcoal Canister, and it would cost $13xx.xx. Is that right? And is there anywhere to find it cheaper?

Thanks,
Mike

triumph5
triumph5 SuperDork
12/20/10 2:55 p.m.

Junk yard.

oldtin
oldtin PowerDork
12/20/10 3:09 p.m.

Do you know what the code is? Cannister is a $400ish part. They do go bad, but you can find salvage yard ones.

Is that a 2uzfe or the 6?

mtn
mtn MegaDork
12/20/10 3:12 p.m.
oldtin wrote: Do you know what the code is? Cannister is a $400ish part. They do go bad, but you can find salvage yard ones. Is that a 2uzfe or the 6?

It is the 6. How long would the salvage yard ones last, would it be worth it to get the new one? And if its a $400, would it really take that long to install that they are charging $800 for it?

EDIT: I do not know what the code is.

oldtin
oldtin PowerDork
12/20/10 4:31 p.m.

Looks like a DIY type of job. $1,300 is either way high, or there's other stuff going on. Looking at the 4runner forums - the traction control light just comes with the territory - so that shouldn't be driving up the bill. The code(s) should be pointing to the evap system. There is a vapor cannister filter that could add an extra $60-70. There's a few threads of throwing codes/ TCS lights and new vapor cannisters with dealer prices under $500 - fix it for her or at least shop it around. I have a friend who used to do the finances for a local toyota dealer . Let me know and I can check if I've still got a connection or at least a name to drop for you.

triumph5
triumph5 SuperDork
12/20/10 6:21 p.m.

If this is part of the emission control system, doesn't this come under the 5 year, 50,000 mile federal mandate/law that these type of parts are covered by the dealer? Or did that law go away?

Won't cover the traction control problem, but should cover the charcoal canister. Yes, no? Oldtin, from your post, sounds like this protective law has gone away...

Or am I thinking it only applies to the catalytic converter?

oldtin
oldtin PowerDork
12/20/10 6:46 p.m.

major emission components - vapor cannister doesn't count. I suspect the tcs light will go out with the cannister change. Good old canbus wiring I guess

mtn
mtn MegaDork
12/20/10 8:40 p.m.

Well, we finally got a hold of my brother who works for a Toyota Dealership in Minnesota. Turns out that the quote was not that far from what it should cost at any dealership. My brother is buying the canister for us and bringing it to us over Christmas, we'll install it ourselves or take it to a trusted shop if its too cold

Thanks for all the replies

benzbaronDaryn
benzbaronDaryn SuperDork
12/20/10 10:11 p.m.

My mercedes has a canister from a BMW installed, I really don't understand how one could go bad unless you overfill the tank and the fuel expands into the charcoal canister and soaks it. All I know is old cars and the charcoal canister is just an intermediate between the gas tank vapors and the intake. The charcoal absorbs the gas fume and release them into the intake once the car is running.

Good luck and I'll be sticking with my old cars!

oldtin
oldtin PowerDork
12/20/10 11:40 p.m.

the toyota ones have baffles and doors and stuff that fails beyond the overfilling fail. Yeah, I like old stuff.

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