In reply to SVreX:
Agreed.
In reply to SVreX:
Agreed.
In reply to Driven5:
Um ok, I give in. Men shouldn't need to know how to pump gas or change a tire. And they should let their truck back up their trailer for them instead of taking the time to learn how to do it.
I'm sure you'll be there to guide him when his trailer guidance system fails and he's jack-knifed on the boat ramp, gets a flat tire or runs out of gas.
trigun7469 wrote: I think the "Manly Patrol" forgot to point out that the guy was also driving a automatic and not a diesel....We all better get our quill pens out and send a hate letters to ford about using technology.
If you're referring to me then congratulations. You've missed the point roughly 100%.
If not... Sorry.
I use technology plenty but it's not because I need it. I might even use that technology someday for some reason but not because I never learned it manually.
But as I wrote earlier, I never said technology was a bad thing and should be avoided. I just see too many examples of what I mentioned ie: pumping gas and changing a tire.
If someone decides to take that statement and twist it to make it seem like I abhor technology, that's fine but it's also disingenuous.
ebonyandivory wrote: I'm sure you'll be there to guide him when his trailer guidance system fails and he's jack-knifed on the boat ramp, gets a flat tire or runs out of gas.
I've known teenage girls that were less melodramatic than this. 
Holy E36 M3, I love berkeleying science. Now I kind of want a new truck. Can I backup a trailer better than ricky down the street? Sure. I can also drive a rwd car on all seasons in the snow better than he can too. But do I much rather enjoy driving the wrx on hakka R2s in the snow because it feels like I broke physics and turned on cheat codes for real life? Yes. This literally is like cheating at real life, I love it.
this kind of reminds me of the only recent Audi ad that I actually liked:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVaFbkg9jRs
Driven5 wrote:ebonyandivory wrote: I'm sure you'll be there to guide him when his trailer guidance system fails and he's jack-knifed on the boat ramp, gets a flat tire or runs out of gas.I've known teenage girls that were less melodramatic than this.
Whatever it takes for you to understand that you completely missed my point.
So few people (relative to actual sales) pull a trailer I dont think its a big deal, but It will get a bunch of press like this is and it will be one of those en vogue gadgets to have, that everyone talks about how cool it is, but it has a very limited use for the vast majority of owners.
I never tried backing a trailer, was way to scared to do it, and both my parents pulled trailers all the time when I was young, and I was worried they wouldnt be happy with how E36 M3ty I would be. Then I borrowed a truck and an camper to go to a music festival, and I will tell you backing up an expensive truck and trailer you cant afford to replace/fix around a E36 M3 load of drunk people, teaches you to back a trailer very quickly, never had a problem since, pull a trailer all the time.
last place I saw so many butt hurt men in one place was a proctologists office.
logdog wrote: I feel like this has become that scene from The Breakfast Club where everybody tells what their talent is. Who can put lipstick on with their boobs? If I admit I can does that make me more of a man?
No. It makes you more Ringwald.
Here's what's really funny- for this kind of truck, most (probably +90%) are repeat buyers, who already tow a trailer.
They have the skills, but now have something to make their life easier.
BTW, I also find it interesting that pumping gas is some kind of man measurement. Using that rule, Steve McQueen wasn't many enough. People didn't have to pump their own gas until the mid 70's- after his death.
But a post that could be about interesting new and creative features to make people's life's better turns into a man measurement thread. Ah, the interwebs.
Where's the video of it backing up a tiny 4x8 harbor freight trailer?
Question...
Is it actually backing itself?
Looks to me like a joystick-like control that enables the driver to drive via the back-up camera. I don't see anything automatic.
SVreX wrote: Question... Is it actually backing itself? Looks to me like a joystick-like control that enables the driver to drive via the back-up camera. I don't see anything automatic.
The joystick is what guides the steering the truck's computer seems to use info from the backup camera to determine which way it needs to point the front wheels.
In reply to Leafy:
Is it that, or is the joystick just controlling the electric steering?
I am not convinced it is an automated thing.
SVreX wrote: In reply to Leafy: Is it that, or is the joystick just controlling the electric steering? I am not convinced it is an automated thing.
Pretty sure it automated, you can see in the longer video that he's holding the joystick in its spot and the wheel is doing all sorts of things.
I'm surprised the lawyers green-lit this. Looks like a good way to break your wrist if you put your hand through the steering wheel spokes.
alfadriver wrote: BTW, I also find it interesting that pumping gas is some kind of man measurement. Using that rule, Steve McQueen wasn't many enough. People didn't have to pump their own gas until the mid 70's- after his death.
Yep, that is a rather silly measurement of manliness. I was in my mid-30's before I went to a gas station where I pumped my own gas. And I'm sure there are others on here who had the same experience.
There are some places where you still are not allowed to pump your own gas.
JohnyHachi6 wrote: I'm surprised the lawyers green-lit this. Looks like a good way to break your wrist if you put your hand through the steering wheel spokes.
erm have you been living under a rock? How did you think the parallel park itself cars that we've had for like 8 years worked?
I'm tired of hearing about this man card nonsense. There are plenty of things I can do but living in modern America means I don't have to. I get my food in a store, my commuter shifts itself, and if it could steer itself I'd be okay with that too. I'd rather use the time to take a quick nap or catch up on some reading.
I wonder how many of the guys questioning others manhood because they listen to Barry Manilow or don't understand why everyone left a hockey game after the third quarter have to hide from their wives in some sort of Mancave where they have to store their bikini posters and fake vintage Harley signs.
Funny whenever I had to do something carry a friend after he broke a leg like on a hike or hold my friends gut together after he got shot so we could drive him to the hospital no one checked to see if I had a valid man card but for something trivial we all want to get judgemental. I probably wouldn't order something like this but I wouldn't have a fit because it exists. For the I can back stuff up pissing contest I used a single axle Mack wrecker to tow a Freightliner and a 45' trailer and backed the mess off a main road down a dead end alley into a loading dock because the owner of the building insisted it couldn't be done. I probably lose points though because it was an Ex city truck with an automatic transmission.
Leafy wrote:JohnyHachi6 wrote: I'm surprised the lawyers green-lit this. Looks like a good way to break your wrist if you put your hand through the steering wheel spokes.erm have you been living under a rock? How did you think the parallel park itself cars that we've had for like 8 years worked?
Fair enough. I don't recall seeing the steering wheel snap around as much with those systems though.
this is one of those things that answers a question nobody had ever asked before. it's software engineers and marketing people justifying the wage they get paid.
also, it's more expensive E36 M3 to go wrong down the road. but, hey, that's for the second owner to worry about..
does buying a truck with this feature make you less of a man? no... but you may feel like less of a man when you get used to backing down the boat ramp using this feature and then you try to use a buddy's truck that doesn't have this feature to launch or recover a boat and all your friends laugh at you...
Wally wrote: For the I can back stuff up pissing contest I used a single axle Mack wrecker to tow a Freightliner and a 45' trailer and backed the mess off a main road down a dead end alley into a loading dock because the owner of the building insisted it couldn't be done.
You would probably do just fine with the hay wagons everyone seems to think are so hard also. 
Hay wagons and tow dollies are hard because they have 2 separate pivots. They really aren't designed to be backed.
An empty tow dolly is harder than a hay wagon.
novaderrik wrote: this is one of those things that answers a question nobody had ever asked before. it's software engineers and marketing people justifying the wage they get paid.
Disagree completely. These guys at ford, especially on the highly profitable and visible f150 program, know exactly what the consumer wants.
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