D2W
HalfDork
10/4/17 10:28 a.m.
Why all the hate. Is it because they have gotten so expensive you can never hope to afford one. We don't piss and moan that a Ferrari is $500K, but a pickup which has more utility, more comfort, and can tow around a small country must be $20K. If people didn't want them they wouldn't sell and the automakers wouldn't make them.
I bought a used F150 Ecoboost and then jointed a forum for that vehicle. Some of the members posted purchased prices in the low $70's for 2016 & 2017's! So I am not at all surprised at a F350 going for that price. Heck I would bet that someone could hit $100K if they really tried!
If MB and Land Rover can sell $100k+ SUVs, why can’t Ford get in on the fun with a $100k truck?
Mitchell said:
If MB and Land Rover can sell $100k+ SUVs, why can’t Ford get in on the fun with a $100k truck?
It'll probably last longer and it CAN do everything except fit in most garages lol. The last truck you'll need until they go all electric.
Grizz
UberDork
10/4/17 12:59 p.m.
I just want a small truck that is actually small. Why is that so hard to get from basically everyone but nissan?
Given how quickly connects/promaster cities/whatever the berkeley the chevy version is named have taken over the small work vehicle market the first company to market one of those with a chassis cab or a basic bed is going to make a mint.
It's easy to be dismissive about people complaining over premium truck prices, with comments like "well that's what the market wants", or "it's not like you can afford one anyway" but the fact is, these trucks are designed around the top tier models, and that ends up being reflected in base model prices too.
Don't want a car with proximity alarms, back up cameras and other asst fluff? Sure, you can get a car without the fluff, but you're still paying for the development time it took to incorporate those systems into the vehicle.
There's still a large portion of the country that *needs* these trucks in a commercial capacity in order to stay in business.
The further they go into these crazy price ranges the harder and harder it gets for small business owners to cover those costs.
I don't think there's anything wrong with being concerned about that.
My brother is one of those guys who needs a truck like this. He got away cheap--- bought a 2016 that was still on the lot, and saved a good amount of $$.
It's not only his tow vehicle, daily driver and work hauler-----it's also his office. If you are spending 8+ hours a day in the thing.....I'd want it nice too.
His is the TITANIUM version---- which it broadcasts in three inch high chrome letters. Subtle his truck is not!
I might need to keep my '01 indefinitely.
This is 'Murica, where you NEED an F350 to tow your 8' utility trailer to pick up 20 bags of mulch, or to tow your Miata on an open-deck trailer.
My office (in Washington DC, where almost everyone who works there lives in the suburbs, not on farms) is full of new/ish F250s, F350s, big Chevy and Dodge Trucks, Titans, Tundras, etc. Most of them are owned by 23 year old sailors who throw their entire re-enlistment bonuses at them, just so they can commute on the beltway and not be able to fit into the work parking garage. There is one guy who actually tows a 5th wheel travel trailer AND commutes in his dually (it probably gets better MPGs than my WRX), so he gets a pass. But 95% of these trucks look like they've never had a hitch on them or anything in the bed. One of the guys in my office has a new dually and I asked him what he tows and he said "nothing, but maybe someday I'll get something to tow...."
I don't get it, personally . I knwo there are some distance-haulers, RVers, or guys who legitimately tow heavy equipment around (though I rarely see nic new trucks doing that, usually work-body F450s and such...). But each to his own, not my money to spend. And more open parking spots in my work garage while all those dudes have to hike it in from the outer lot.. :)
Joe Gearin said:
My brother is one of those guys who needs a truck like this. He got away cheap--- bought a 2016 that was still on the lot, and saved a good amount of $$.
It's not only his tow vehicle, daily driver and work hauler-----it's also his office. If you are spending 8+ hours a day in the thing.....I'd want it nice too.
His is the TITANIUM version---- which it broadcasts in three inch high chrome letters. Subtle his truck is not!
well, he gets a pass. He actually works in and out of his truck.
This thread. AGAIN.
At least everyone is saying the same thing they always do.
APEowner said:
I might need to keep my '01 indefinitely.
Might do the same with my excursion. Thinking I can probably keep it going to at least 400k before anything crazy happens. But, I do want a 2016+ 6.7 F250.
pinchvalve said:
mad_machine said:
it's a third the price of my house... that's all I have because to think that a pickup could cost that much is just thinkable.
Its 98% of my house. (yeah cheap housing market!)
That's more than double the price of my first house.
logdog
UltraDork
10/5/17 8:52 a.m.
Thats 94k times more expensive than the Taco Tuesday special!
Im not the intended market but im not suprised. We service trucks for some guys who drag campers for a living and there willing to pay extra for the creature comforts. I likely would too if i was going to be in my truck 4-6 days a week!
z31maniac said:
This thread. AGAIN.
At least everyone is saying the same thing they always do.
because we think it is stupid to pay silly money for a vehicle? This seems especially silly with the F450 Lariat starts at 65,800. 30,000+ worth of options does not seem worth it
We really shouldn't throw stones at big truck buyers...... as we are living in a house made of glass.
Try to explain how spending $$ on a big-- incredibly capable truck is less rational than spending $20K on car built for autocross.... and good for autocross only.
Go to the SCCA Solo Nationals, and see the crazy $$ folks drop on some of those cars. Then tell me buying a $100K truck is less irrational.
Different strokes for different folks.
mad_machine said:
z31maniac said:
This thread. AGAIN.
At least everyone is saying the same thing they always do.
because we think it is stupid to pay silly money for a vehicle? This seems especially silly with the F450 Lariat starts at 65,800. 30,000+ worth of options does not seem worth it
How much of that $30k is function/safety and how much is comfort/tech?
logdog
UltraDork
10/5/17 9:42 a.m.
Joe Gearin said:
We really shouldn't throw stones at big truck buyers...... as we are living in a house made of glass.
I could buy 11,750 copies of Glass Houses on 8 track!
mad_machine said:
z31maniac said:
This thread. AGAIN.
At least everyone is saying the same thing they always do.
because we think it is stupid to pay silly money for a vehicle? This seems especially silly with the F450 Lariat starts at 65,800. 30,000+ worth of options does not seem worth it
So?
If you think it's stupid, or it doesn't serve a purpose for you, ummmmmmm, don't buy one?
Like Joe said, many people think it's stupid to have ten's of thousands tied up in cars that are good only for AutoX, or HPDE, or racing, or hard parking at the local cruise night.
One time I bought a Cadillac station wagon. I could have bought a truck AND a Camry AND a track Miata for the same money. Sometimes the heart wants what it wants.
Why is this news? its like one buff article went wild with a 100K truck but have any of you ever built a superduty online to a spec you would want? MRSP gets to 70K pretty easily and thats only an F250...
plus trucks is what keeps the auto industry afloat.
fidelity101 said:
Why is this news? its like one buff article went wild with a 100K truck but have any of you ever built a superduty online to a spec you would want? MRSP gets to 70K pretty easily and thats only an F250...
plus trucks is what keeps the auto industry afloat.
And those trucks like that, you can take at least $10k off MSRP to what they will actually sell for.
fidelity101 said:
plus trucks is what keeps the auto industry afloat.
Trucks keep the Big Three afloat, the rest of the auto industry seems to do quite fine without them (excluding the fact that the Japanese makes sell SOME trucks, but not at the ratios ford, GM, and Chrysler do)