Looking at one tomorrow because a b body wagon sounds fun in my life but i was wondering, how do parts swap over to an 84 caprice sedan? I get mixed results on google searches, some saying its the exact same and others saying its wider on the wagon, but has deeper gears and sometimes posi.
Deeper gears sounds nice for Challenge Caprice, i havent looked at it yet so this could all be for not but, anyone know if the wagon axle is a direct swap? If it is a decent upgrade from my 2.42 that would be great
The name Parisienne really got bastardized by Pontiac about that time. The B-body was named Bonneville in the US but about this time the Bonneville name was given to G-body. the previous Lemans
The B-body in the US was then named Parisienne and was offered as a 4 door only. Canada had a Parisienne wagon.
Are you looking at a Canadian car?
John Welsh said:
The name Parisienne really got bastardized by Pontiac about that time. The B-body was named Bonneville in the US but about this time the Bonneville name was given to G-body. the previous Lemans
The B-body in the US was then named Parisienne and was offered as a 4 door only. Canada had a Parisienne wagon.
Are you looking at a Canadian car?
Possibly? I knew the Parisienne was a Canadian car but I didn't know that the wagon wasn't imported. I'm close to Canada anyway so it makes sense why it's here.
They did sell them in the US in 1984. Here's a link to the factory brochure for that year: http://www.oldcarbrochures.com/static/NA/Pontiac/1984_Pontiac/1984_Pontiac_Full_Line_Brochure/dirindex.html For the most part it's the same as other GM B body wagons, with the same drivetrain and chassis. Of course there are differences in trim.
Curtis
UltimaDork
3/11/19 10:43 a.m.
Axle is not a direct swap, but can be done. The wagon axle is not the same width which can be compensated for with wheel offset, but the trailing arm mounts are different which causes some fabrication needs.
The parsianne had been in production in Canada since the 50s and had always been based on chevrolet chassis and drive trains etc. For years all Canadain pontiacs were actually chevrolet underneath.
Not looking at it now, she decided to sell it to her neighbor.
Kind of annoying since I was working on her schedule.
stuart in mn said:
They did sell them in the US in 1984. Here's a link to the factory brochure for that year: http://www.oldcarbrochures.com/static/NA/Pontiac/1984_Pontiac/1984_Pontiac_Full_Line_Brochure/dirindex.html For the most part it's the same as other GM B body wagons, with the same drivetrain and chassis. Of course there are differences in trim.
I think I actually have that brochure at home. I used to collect every single brochure at the Philly Auto Show every year when I was young. Many of them were lost in a fire 20+ years ago, but I think I still have 1984 and 1985.
Was it a Paris-een Brog-ham?
Asking as a Canadian.
Here is 58 Parisienne,my grand father had one very similar. His had a 283 and a turboglide transmission. The styling was done to be the same as the us full size pontiacs. The Parisienne was the Canadain equivalent to the bonneville. However since cnd pontiacs were chevrolet underneath they had a narrower body and didn’t have the Pontiac wide track.
Wow! We had an 84 Parisienne. Never knew it was a "rare" car from Canada. My mom, who is not a lead-foot, managed to snap the 305 crank in half. The bastard kept running for 80 miles home.
In reply to Appleseed :
They were sold in the US from 83-86. And were almost exact clones of the Caprice aside from the grill, wheels and interior trim. So it was not necessarily a Canadian car.
Curtis
UltimaDork
3/11/19 6:32 p.m.
Nick Comstock said:
In reply to Appleseed :
They were sold in the US from 83-86. And were almost exact clones of the Caprice aside from the grill, wheels and interior trim. So it was not necessarily a Canadian car.
I think they are speaking of the Parisienne Wagon, which was a pretty rare bird in the states.
In reply to Curtis :
The wagon was sold until 1989. It's name was changed to Safari from 87-89.
My parents bought an 84 Pontiac Parisienne wagon new in 84. I remember playing with the power locks so much they eventually broke. If you just held the button they'd cycle so fast it was amusing to a 6 yr old.
I've seen many a Parisienne in my lifetime all around the states. I always thought it was a trim package for the Bonneville. Although I did know about the Canadian Pontiac Parisienne, basically a Bonneville.
