914 4-> 911?

Does the engine/tranny from a 914 fit into a 911? Good or bad idea?

Stan

Like all things on this board, it depends on what your definition of the word 'fit' is. Something like this is always a good idea.

Google "912E" to see the factory version. A one year only model (1976) between the last 914's and the first 924's.

If you were going that route, you might as well put in a hopped up Bug engine.

the type 4 engine in the 914 can be easily bored and stroked to 2.3 litres and be reliable. The 914 transmission is basically a 901 trans with a side shift (depending on the year) and a flipped ring gear.. so yes.. both parts will easily live under the rear of a 911.

and yes.. in 1976 when 914 production stopped.. Porsche had a few thousand type4 engines sitting around doing nothing so decided to resurrect the 912 name and threw them under decontented 911 bodies

Otto Maddox wrote: If you were going that route, you might as well put in a hopped up Bug engine.

I thought 914 engines were bug engines. There was the Beetle, and the Ghia, and the 914 right?

No.

Raze wrote: Like all things on this board, it depends on what your definition of the word 'fit' is. Something like this is always a good idea.

True. A hammer and $$$$ and anything will work (as we've all seen many times here).

I was just looking at something a bit closer to plug-and-play and remembered the last 912s.

914Driver wrote: No.

...to T.J.?

They share characteristics with VW van engines. Basically you get VW performance for Porsche prices.

characteristics... but are the better engine. Just stay away from the 1.8

Please forgive my lack of knowledge about Porsche's, but are we talking about removing the flat 6 for a flat 4?

Otto Maddox wrote: If you were going that route, you might as well put in a hopped up WRX engine.

Fixed.

stan wrote:

914Driver wrote: No.

...to T.J.?

To TJ. I didn't think they were Bug engines. I've never seen a fuel injected 2.0 Bug; but you know I've been wrong before.

Dan

z31maniac wrote: Please forgive my lack of knowledge about Porsche's, but are we talking about removing the flat 6 for a flat 4?

No.

So what is the context here? Do you have a 914 engine and a 911 chassis just sitting around?

stan wrote:

z31maniac wrote: Please forgive my lack of knowledge about Porsche's, but are we talking about removing the flat 6 for a flat 4?

No.

Ok, maybe some more info for those who aren't Porsche fanatics?

I'm just confused since the few people I know with 914s ditched the motor for something else like a Subie or something......not to put in a 911.

z31maniac wrote:

stan wrote:

z31maniac wrote: Please forgive my lack of knowledge about Porsche's, but are we talking about removing the flat 6 for a flat 4?

No.

Ok, maybe some more info for those who aren't Porsche fanatics? I'm just confused since the few people I know with 914s ditched the motor for something else like a Subie or something......not to put in a 911.

The 914 and 912E engine is a Type 4 case, the same as the later VW Bus 2.0 (though there are differences, not exactly the same).

The Beetle, Ghia, 356, 912 (standard), Thing, etc. Are Type 1 cases. Very different!

the 411 and 412 also used the type 4 engine.. but as stated above.. they are NOT the same as the 912 and 914 engines

Now that the technicals questions are answered, I am still really curious why someone would ponder such an endeavor.

Otto Maddox wrote: Now that the technicals questions are answered, I am still really curious why someone would ponder such an endeavor.

I wonder that also. Most 914 owners swap a 911 trans into the 914 as an upgrade

I must have been the only person in the world who liked the strange pattern the 901 trans has..

I happen to like first down and the left.. with 2nd up with 1st normally is.. but then I used to drive a truck then and that transmission was set up the same way

In reply to mad_machine:

That's the other problem. A 914 might be the only sporting car on earth with a crappier transmission than a 911.

amg_rx7 wrote:

Otto Maddox wrote: Now that the technicals questions are answered, I am still really curious why someone would ponder such an endeavor.

I wonder that also. Most 914 owners swap a 911 trans into the 914 as an upgrade

That was kind of my question........

I would be more inclined to put a flat 6 911 motor in the 914. Or a WRX STi motor in the 914... or a 911 for that matter! ;)