Argo1
Reader
5/16/12 2:14 a.m.
OK, I am shopping for Porsche No. 7. It's been a couple of years since I have had one in the garage. Here are the two primary suspects that I am considering. Not interested in diversity. I want another Porsche. (Our $2012 Challenge car is a Lotus - that counts as diversity) I am shopping with a typical GRM level budget of sub $5K. Which do you think?
![](http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/6181/5n45g25hd3mc3o53h7c5cb8.jpg)
Here is a 1975 914 1.8 barn find. From an estate sale. It has spent the last 14 years in a heated garage. It is an original survivor in near perfect condition. 64K on the clock. When I was younger and had disposable income I bought a new 1975 914. I loved that car. Who cares that a Toyota Corolla will beat it in the quarter mile. 914's are just a lot of fun and this one is unmolested and hasn't turned into a pile of rust. I expect that clean, rust free, original cars will probably increase in value as they become harder to find. Then again, this is not the desirable 2.0 model.
![](http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/547/c911617.jpg)
This is a 1989 944s2. Kind of a rare model. The top of the 944 evolution. Big 3 liter 4 cam normally aspirated engine. Equal to, or faster than, the 944 turbo in everything but top speed (down by 7mph). Only a few thousand sold - for good reason - the s2 option package was stupidly expensive and drove the price up to within $2K of the Carrera (nothing much changes at Porsche, eh?). Still the s2 could match the same year Corvette in the quarter mile. Likely to be a collectable. Has 190K on the clock. But then I sold my last 944 (actually a 924S) with 265K on it and never did anything to it except regular maintenance. (Edit: The asking price of this car is $1500 less than the 914)
Two very different cars. Which do you think?
A, by a very very very large amount.
Ask yourself what you want the car to do. DD? 944. Track car? 944. Toy run-about? 914. Other than fixing minor weaknesses, modifying the 914 would probably lose money overall so I think that's out. How do you envision yourself driving it?
All that said, there are many, many 944 fish in the sea. There are >darn few< 914s like that left.
David
Jay
UltraDork
5/16/12 4:24 a.m.
I loooooove 944s, but if that 914 is as good as it looks in the picture, for under $5k, go buy it yesterday.
ur kidding right? 914 dude
I believe the appropriate response is
"which one is an ls1 swap easier in?"
Per Schroeder
Technical Editor/Advertising Director
5/16/12 6:19 a.m.
Yea, A and finding a rust free survivor is a big +!
914 by far. I even hate the later 914s with the giant rubber bumpers but the one in the pic looks super clean.
Also, I wouldn't say the 944 S2 is rare or collectible. I'd say it is a low production model of the 944 and that's about it. I think many would say the end of 944 evolution was when the 968 came out...![](/media/img/icons/smilies/grin-18.png)
DWNSHFT hit the nail on the head though, what do you want the car for?
Raze
SuperDork
5/16/12 6:23 a.m.
In typical GRM fashion, to meet your typical GRM budget, I also choose A, simply because I don't see (m)any 914s anymore...
Because nobody has said it yet, 914. ![](/media/img/icons/smilies/laugh-18.png)
If I could find either car for under $5k, either would be in my driveway...with a strong preference to the 914.
Absolutely the 914. It's way cool.
A! The difference between a 1.8 and a 2.0 is 0.2
Smiles per mile? C'mon, how often is a 944 confused with an RX7 ? Even if you drove the 914 for a few years and decided it didn't fit your lifestyle, you'd make money with a survivor.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/cat.php?id=73
Having watched the 914s run around at the Mitty, I would say 914.
I gotta vote 914 also even though, like you, I don't care for the rubberbabybuggybumpers. Those wheels? Like that car I don't think I have ever seen a set that still had the original snap in plastic center caps. ![](/media/img/icons/smilies/laugh-18.png)
A. The only problem with that 914 is that it seems too nice to track. Mind you B might be faster around the track.
Woody
UltimaDork
5/16/12 7:47 a.m.
As a car, I'd go for the 944. As a toy, the 914.
Do what makes you happy.
I'm in the camp of "depends on what you want to do with it". I think a 944 S2 is the better car in every objective, measurable way, except return on investment.
Subjective? Well, that's up to you. That 914 is saaahweeeet! If it's really sub $5K you'd probably make money selling it years later with more miles on the clock.
I think the simplest answer is, "Both". Buy the 914 as an investment, and the 944 as a toy.
Dissenting opinion.
B the 944 S2 if you want a car to:
1. Track
2. Autocross
3. Back street blast
4. DD
5. Occasional dd
6. Admire the lines off
7. Eeerrr anything
A the 914 if you want a car that:
1. Is ugly as sin and was ignored by all until so many had rusted away it was suddenly deemed cool by ‘Porsche-o-philes’ so it’s value has risen inversely to its actual appeal and worth
2. You want to drop insane amounts of money into to make into a completely useless yet fun autocross monster
This does not mean I don’t like 914’s, it’s just by any measure I can think of short of a $500 carcass to do an engine swap on, an S2 is the better bet.
EricM
SuperDork
5/16/12 8:55 a.m.
get the 914. the 944 is just waiting to punish you.
Both, but if you go for B, say where A is :)