RX7...
RX7...
This one should be an obvious answer to the original question- relatively affordable, should only go up in value, the most similar to the M3 that started the conversation...
Regular Lancer for comparison...
Boost_Crazy said:RX7...
Turbo II is a bad example of "affordable". They're going for what FDs used to go for five-ten years ago! It's crazy.
One of the first things I thought when I got a decent job a couple years ago was "hmm, be nice to have a T2 as a cruiser". Nope. Cost of entry is now $10k and nice ones are more than that.
Boost_Crazy said:This one should be an obvious answer to the original question- relatively affordable, should only go up in value, the most similar to the M3 that started the conversation...
Regular Lancer for comparison...
Find me a stock Evo VIII/IX for "affordable", PLEASE!
I mean, yeah, one man's roadkill is another man's beef jerky, but I wasn't able to find an IX at any price and VIIIs were starting at $25k a few years ago, and ALL of them were modded.
Really like to have an IX. But it has to be stock, no tunes or airboxes or exhausts or any of that E36 M3.
In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :
Find me a stock Evo VIII/IX for "affordable", PLEASE!
I mean, yeah, one man's roadkill is another man's beef jerky, but I wasn't able to find an IX at any price and VIIIs were starting at $25k a few years ago, and ALL of them were modded.
Affordable doesn’t necessarily mean cheap. The question was affordable or good value. You can get an EVO or Turbo II RX7 for less than a new Accord, and it will be worth more in 5 years. Affordable Vs. a first gen M3. They weren’t cheap 10 years ago either, but most of us now wishes that we had bought one.
In reply to Boost_Crazy :
Meh. Ten years ago a friend of mine picked up a super low mileage Canadian spec T2 (it's like American spec, but the cluster is metric, it smells like maple syrup and Timbits inside, and it apologizes for the oil it burns) for $1800.
I bet he's totally kicking himself right now for selling it. On the other hand, he just bought an RX-4, so nevermind.
Any vehicle can have box flares if you have an angle grinder, a pop rivet gun, and some spare sheet metal on hand.
The easy answer to this question is Miata. Followed by Mustang. Followed by F-Body.
No, "factory" box flares aren't super common. But you can get flares for all of those rides from about half a dozen vendors each.
Edit lest I forget: The Ford F150 "Flare"side:
These might be borderline box flares. Not quite as boxy as the others mentioned above.
For the sake of staying on topic, I'd prefer if we're going to throw out random vehicles with aftermarket flares, that we list where such flares can be found aftermarket. As in, prices, "add to cart" etc.
I mean, I could post any number of vehicles from the "Further Proof" thread, but many of those never had production aftermarkets flares circulating or easily attainable.
Like I said, I don't mind the idea of adding flares to a vehicle to achieve a certain look, but I'm not going to hack them together.
Also, lets rule out trucks (and vans) for the purposes of this topic. Crossovers are ok.
AGAIN has to be a specific model of vehicle that got different fenders from others offerings of the same model.
The Tracker or Sidekick doesn't meet that criteria, they all got the same fenders. The E150 doesn't meet that either, they all got the same fenders. The "Widebody" Hardbody...ok yea it kinda meets the criteria but it's a truck.
I think the RX7 is a strong entry. Especially since they're climbing in value, that makes total cost of ownership considerably less. And they have the box flares. If they're not box flared enough, there are aftermarket boxier flares. They may not be as exciting to drive as a Fiesta, but it'll beat a Jeep :)
Agreed. They are still mysterious enough for most people that folks will avoid them due to the wankel.
I like the looks of my Type-R over an Si or base Civic. My Type R is Championship White.
First gen Forte had serious front fender/box flares. The rear was a little.... plain.
If you're talking about a car that has a specific wideboy for a certain trim only, fairly rare knowsadays. I'm sure the bean counters. The few that do exist seem to be more of the bolt on variety vs a new panel stamping. Are the Challenger widebodies bolt flares in the rear or a unique unibody? Off the top of my head, the new Yaris GR is one of the few widebody for homologation purposes with a unique body shell cars that exists.
Keith Tanner said:I think the RX7 is a strong entry. Especially since they're climbing in value, that makes total cost of ownership considerably less. And they have the box flares. If they're not box flared enough, there are aftermarket boxier flares. They may not be as exciting to drive as a Fiesta, but it'll beat a Jeep :)
All of them, including the base model, had those flares.
wvumtnbkr said:Keith Tanner said:I think the RX7 is a strong entry. Especially since they're climbing in value, that makes total cost of ownership considerably less. And they have the box flares. If they're not box flared enough, there are aftermarket boxier flares. They may not be as exciting to drive as a Fiesta, but it'll beat a Jeep :)
All of them, including the base model, had those flares.
This is true but irrelevant as per the original post. Plus there are aftermarket box flares available, which was item 2 on the original request.
Are any of these boxy enough?
Golf
https://www.evasivemotorsports.com/store/product/pandem-rear-over-fenders-volkswagen-golf-mk7/
Veloster
https://scgarageworks.com/product/2019-veloster-n-aero-type-r-wide-body-kit/
Impreza
https://www.battleaero.com/products/wide-body-kit-for-04-05-subaru-wrx-sti-gd
In reply to pheller :
To each his own. You certainly are entitled to your opinion and I'll defend your right to it. But I differ, box flairs add a large amount of drag.
Much as I love Group 44's Jaguar XJS those box flairs ruined the lines and the aero efficency of the car. In addition making the car wider so it often wouldn't fit in the holes opening up on the race track.
Those flairs covered 15x10" wheels and tires.
TWR in Europe raced the same Jaguar XJS using bigger 17x12 wheels and tires without the flairs. Watching the two race the Walkinshaw cars could take advantage of openings and pass cars on the track while the Group 44 had to do it with power.
In reply to trucke :
The Type R looks MUCH better. but are those really considered box flares? they resemble ad on rounded flares for bad 70's customs to me. Do those things have a separate name, or are they box flairs also?
although those actually look pretty good. it was just the firs pic I came to...
pheller said:Also, lets rule out trucks (and vans) for the purposes of this topic. Crossovers are ok.
I agree a van doesn't fit your original post, but even if it did how could this qualify anyway?
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