Interesting cars, but honestly I'm concerned how much longer alpha will be in the states. They aren't doing well. A 3 series doesn't look like its a ton more and is a lot safer bet. Alpha is probalby one of those cars I wouldn't mind leasing on a good deal if I really wanted a taste.
In reply to jerel77494 :
When it comes to reliability and servicing, the Guilia and the Quadrifoglio are two different cars.
Guy down the way has one and they're very well shaped but I can't get over the grille. It's an extremely butterface car.
P3PPY said:Guy down the way has one and they're very well shaped but I can't get over the grille. It's an extremely butterface car.
I admit it. To me it looks like a beak.
J.A. Ackley said:P3PPY said:Guy down the way has one and they're very well shaped but I can't get over the grille. It's an extremely butterface car.
I admit it. To me it looks like a beak.
Funny to me, that's the only part of the outside of the car that makes it at least say Alfa Romeo on it. The rest of the body, meh. Historically, Alfa sedans were both boring and unique at the same time, especially the Giulia TI from the 60s. But when I first saw the current Giulia in person, I knew we would not be getting one.
In reply to alfadriver :
It looks a lot like a Jag S-type in form, but it has the heart of a Wrangler.
Pete. (l33t FS) said:In reply to alfadriver :
It looks a lot like a Jag S-type in form, but it has the heart of a Wrangler.
But without the ducks, unfortunately.
J.A. Ackley said:Pete. (l33t FS) said:In reply to alfadriver :
It looks a lot like a Jag S-type in form, but it has the heart of a Wrangler.
But without the ducks, unfortunately.
It's also probably not adviseable to try and park the Alfa on top of a rock.
I finally got around to looking up the specs on that engine. Yowza.
Colin Wood said:J.A. Ackley said:Pete. (l33t FS) said:In reply to alfadriver :
It looks a lot like a Jag S-type in form, but it has the heart of a Wrangler.
But without the ducks, unfortunately.
It's also probably not adviseable to try and park the Alfa on top of a rock.
Is that a challenge? 
Colin Wood said:J.A. Ackley said:Pete. (l33t FS) said:In reply to alfadriver :
It looks a lot like a Jag S-type in form, but it has the heart of a Wrangler.
But without the ducks, unfortunately.
It's also probably not adviseable to try and park the Alfa on top of a rock.
It just needs a smaller rock!
J.A. Ackley said:Pete. (l33t FS) said:but it has the heart of a Wrangler.
"Fortunately" without the ducks,
There, fixed that one! 
theruleslawyer said:Interesting cars, but honestly I'm concerned how much longer alpha will be in the states. They aren't doing well. A 3 series doesn't look like its a ton more and is a lot safer bet. Alpha is probalby one of those cars I wouldn't mind leasing on a good deal if I really wanted a taste.
It's definitely an unknown, but I really wouldn't say it's much of a concern.
Alfa left the US market in 1995 and didn't return until 2015 with the 4C. When they left, the world didn't just end for Alfa owners. People continued to enjoy their Spiders, Milanos, and 164s. Some dealerships continued to supply parts and service even after they didn't have new cars to sell, and some didn't. Most necessary parts were available through the aftermarket and there were enough knowledgeable shops to keep the cars going.
Now - the Giulia and Stelvio are more complex, but in reality I see much the same happening if Alfa did leave again.
I've owned a 2018 Giulia Ti Sport Q4 since May of 2019; got it with 1500 miles on it.
In the beginning there were some obnoxious quirks, but software updates have resolved 95% of them. The car will randomly decide to not connect to your phone and that presents an issue when attempting to make or receive a phone call. This is usually resolved by the next time you start it up. I chalk it off to it having a personality. Randomly, when you go to close the trunk, it pops right open again. It's never popped open at an inopportune time, only when you just closed it. Locking/unlocking doors usually gets it to reset.
Besides those little quirks, the car is an absolute blast. I track it frequently and have only had issues with the mods I had installed. When in stock form, or at least when not running a crappy tune, the car is wonderful.
For anyone who owns or is looking to own a Giulia, check out my forum https://giuliatech.com for info and answers to your questions. We have an ever expanding Library of write-ups for common and not so common tasks.
Hope I can promote my site here. If not, please just remove the link.
P.S. I like what Joe and company does, but to recommend EuroCompulsion is a serious blunder. There are much better tunes out there that actually output the numbers they claim. EC is snake oil based on my experience having the tune back in the day along with others who experienced the same thing. When called out on the lies, EC decided to ghost everyone. FYI FWIW.
In reply to BoxheadTim :
You can get at the trunk release through the back seat.
You can jump the vehicle just fine using the dedicated posts under the hood.
The Intelligent Battery Sensor (IBS) reports the batteries state of charge, and no matter what type of battery you have installed the charging system is instructed to only charge as much as absolutely necessary... which isn't very much at all. Most people are driving around, unbeknownst to them, at about 45% state of charge. This low of a SoC will disable Auto Start/Stop and the rear defrosters. It is highly recommended that you use a tender, even if you're driving it daily. Alfa screwed this one up in the name of EPA standards. Stuff4Cars is working on an IBS replacement that does a better job at telling the system to charge. (fyi)
Sport package doesn't come with LSD or adaptive dampers. The Ti Sport Performance Package does though... for older generations. The newer models all come with LSD... but also the terrible sunroof. ugh.
fizzzz said:In the beginning there were some obnoxious quirks, but software updates have resolved 95% of them. The car will randomly decide to not connect to your phone and that presents an issue when attempting to make or receive a phone call. This is usually resolved by the next time you start it up. I chalk it off to it having a personality. Randomly, when you go to close the trunk, it pops right open again. It's never popped open at an inopportune time, only when you just closed it. Locking/unlocking doors usually gets it to reset.
I'm not trying to sound sarcastic, but it wouldn't be a true Italian cars without a few quirks, right?
I've been led to believe that the quirks add to the "charm" of owning an Italian car. 
In reply to VTECracer35 :
Where do you do your track days? (I'm in KC too)
In reply to Colin Wood :
Often, quirks = charm. It's like using words like rustic and patina, right ;-)
In reply to fizzzz :
Most cars made in the last 10-20 years have the seatback release in the trunk, not the cabin.
I'm not sure if this is for access control (can't get into the trunk with a valet key) or a misguided attempt at convenience.
Interesting that this car doesn't follow that trend.
In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :
Mine has the "ski" pass-through in the middle of the back seat that you can pop down using the fabric pull strap from inside the cab. From the trunk you can lower the back seats using the two releases.
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