Aluminum F150??? 2015 revealed.

ProDarwin wrote: I just went to Ford's website and you can still buy a fleet regular cab F150 with manual locks and windows, manual A/C. I don't know what all the fuss is about...

But it has unecessary evils like ABS and TPMS that will cost you millions to own and repair.

Hmm... I do hate TPMS, but that sure as hell isn't Ford's fault.

Adrian_Thompson wrote: Psst, Kenny, trucks don't rust in the South, and we've been selling millions of them there for decades. People don't only buy new cars as the prior one has returned to the earth.

That's kinda weird to think about. Buy a new car BEFORE you paid off the old one?

Knurled wrote: That's kinda weird to think about. Buy a new car BEFORE you paid off the old one?

That's allowed?

Also, I feel saddened that nobody asked if Ford was going to make a similarly constructed Falcon.

I like it. Bet it would look better in more neutral colors than red.

ProDarwin wrote: Hmm... I do hate TPMS, but that sure as hell isn't Ford's fault.

Not sure if sarcasm or not. The whole Ford/Firestone debacle is what got the ball rolling on federally mandated TPMS for everyone.

In reply to 4cylndrfury:

I have only one quick question.....why do you hate electric assist steering? The redline was great aside from getting snagged in the recall for it....and they feel consistantly in touch with the road, much more so than the damn hydraulic assist I've returned to.

As far as trucks, I'm liking where this is going. I don't care about truck styling really, as long as it can do what it needs to.

theenico wrote:

ProDarwin wrote: Hmm... I do hate TPMS, but that sure as hell isn't Ford's fault.

Not sure if sarcasm or not. The whole Ford/Firestone debacle is what got the ball rolling on federally mandated TPMS for everyone.

Something else probably would have come along to make that happen anyhow. And not fer nuthin, but that whole thing was about 5% Ford, 25% Firestone, and 75% idiots driving overloaded vehicles at too-high speeds with too-low tire pressures. And I'm being generous to the idiots.

Tom_Spangler wrote:

theenico wrote:

ProDarwin wrote: Hmm... I do hate TPMS, but that sure as hell isn't Ford's fault.

Not sure if sarcasm or not. The whole Ford/Firestone debacle is what got the ball rolling on federally mandated TPMS for everyone.

Something else probably would have come along to make that happen anyhow. And not fer nuthin, but that whole thing was about 5% Ford, 25% Firestone, and 75% idiots driving overloaded vehicles at too-high speeds with too-low tire pressures. And I'm being generous to the idiots.

Ok, fair enough, Ford has some involvement. I actually don't hate TPMS, I hate the complication/regulations around the system. If they standardized and sold a $50 universal controller to program the sensors, I'd be find with it.

I see a lot of styling from the Atlas concept. Also the 700lb weight reduction is a comparison to the old crew cab 4x4 to the 2015.

I have heard that Ford will release the details for the next Raptor this summer as a 2016 model. It should be interesting since the 6.2L is dead.

With the weight reduction and 2.7L turbo V6, I wonder what the fuel economy will be?

Knurled wrote: Also, I feel saddened that nobody asked if Ford was going to make a similarly constructed Ranger.

Still waiting on my 35mpg non-hybrid, non-diesel pickup.

PHeller wrote:

Knurled wrote: Also, I feel saddened that nobody asked if Ford was going to make a similarly constructed Ranger.

Still waiting on my 35mpg non-hybrid, non-diesel pickup.

What the hell is an aluminum Ranger?

PHeller wrote:

Knurled wrote: Also, I feel saddened that nobody asked if Ford was going to make a similarly constructed Ranger.

Still waiting on my 35mpg non-hybrid, non-diesel pickup.

I'm still waiting on a 35mpg hybrid. 35mpg city/30 highway hybrid would rock.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think Ford needs to do something. I work with three diehard F150 guys. All currently drive them, and are in the market for a new truck. These guys are hardcore, and not one of them is looking at a Ford.

Knurled wrote:

PHeller wrote:

Knurled wrote: Also, I feel saddened that nobody asked if Ford was going to make a similarly constructed Ranger.

Still waiting on my 35mpg non-hybrid, non-diesel pickup.

What the hell is an aluminum Ranger?

A very light truck for people who don't large loads?

Zomby Woof wrote: Maybe I'm wrong, but I think Ford needs to do something. I work with three diehard F150 guys. All currently drive them, and are in the market for a new truck. These guys are hardcore, and not one of them is looking at a Ford.

Meh, their loss....

Tom_Spangler wrote:

theenico wrote:

ProDarwin wrote: Hmm... I do hate TPMS, but that sure as hell isn't Ford's fault.

Not sure if sarcasm or not. The whole Ford/Firestone debacle is what got the ball rolling on federally mandated TPMS for everyone.

Something else probably would have come along to make that happen anyhow. And not fer nuthin, but that whole thing was about 5% Ford, 25% Firestone, and 75% idiots driving overloaded vehicles at too-high speeds with too-low tire pressures. And I'm being generous to the idiots.

I -still- see idiots driving around in explorers with the sidewalls on the tyres all chewed up from driving underinflated.

Question with the new truck.. is it the same size as the outgoing 150? I wonder if Ford continues to make a bigger truck, they might return a smaller ranger to our shores?

Zomby Woof wrote: Maybe I'm wrong, but I think Ford needs to do something. I work with three diehard F150 guys. All currently drive them, and are in the market for a new truck. These guys are hardcore, and not one of them is looking at a Ford.

Can't be that hardcore, they're driving F150s. Buy a real truck you wusses!

ProDarwin wrote: If they standardized and sold a $50 universal controller to program the sensors, I'd be find with it.

I bet something like that will come along.. remember how much OBD-II readers cost in 2000.. we're only 5 years or so removed from when TPMS became mandatory and I'm sure the aftermarket is working away on trying to make programmers.

PHeller wrote:

Knurled wrote:

PHeller wrote:

Knurled wrote: Also, I feel saddened that nobody asked if Ford was going to make a similarly constructed Ranger.

Still waiting on my 35mpg non-hybrid, non-diesel pickup.

What the hell is an aluminum Ranger?

A very light truck for people who don't large loads?

Since it flew right over your head...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F1d3QWsyk0

IIn reply to unevolved: I would buy a 5.0 tomorrow

dculberson wrote:

ProDarwin wrote: If they standardized and sold a $50 universal controller to program the sensors, I'd be find with it.

I bet something like that will come along.. remember how much OBD-II readers cost in 2000.. we're only 5 years or so removed from when TPMS became mandatory and I'm sure the aftermarket is working away on trying to make programmers.

I thought I read something recently about cloning TPMS sensors and attendant tool, so you can copy IDs over from one set to another instead of having to get the car's codes updated (<Seinfeld cursing Newman voice>Subaru!</Seinfeld cursing Newman voice>)

Looks like Standard makes cloneable sensors and a tool (~$105, the T55000) to read the old sensors and program the new ones, so you can change between sets without a relearn or reprogramming...

Kinda surprised how we got 3 pages and almost no discussion about the 2.7 ecoboost. Supposedly it might get rated up there with the the 3.0 ram, 'close to 30' mpg hwy. I want to know how it drives.

But honestly, i kind of hope it doesnt get rated high enough to steal the EcoDiesel Ram's thunder. The ecodiesel ram needs time to sink in and get some momentum going for small diesels in half-ton (or smaller!) pickups. I feel like a 28+hwy mpg 2.7 Ford would be ill-gotten gains if it stifles enthusiasm for small diesels in pickups.

I'm pulling for the 2.7 just to spite you.