I really want a H2T, useless for most things but I like the way they look.
The H2 may be the trendiest vehicle ever since they were hot with rappers, young black folks and suburban white folks when they came out, and now not even WE want to use it as a tow vehicle. I'm surprised that some of you guys suggested a H1 since those were basically a military vehicle that was sold to the public, so less were sold than the H2.
I worked at a hummer dealer and although my favorite large suv is the tahoe I did enjoy driving the h2. I thought it was pretty damn comfortable, quite capable off road and although bad on gas and consumables quite easy to maintain. The fact that the trans grenaded doesn't surprise me as most buyers for that vehicle when new were over privileged pricks tbh. Congrats on the h2 and hope you and your wife enjoy it. You could do a lot worse.
We will see if I own it. I put it on the lift yesrerday and it all cheacked out underneath. It was much cleaner than I expected and the trans replacement and the ps pump leak was confirmed.
I am making a counter offer to the owner today.
I've wondered about these, they were the rage a few years back (every small business owner bought one while the tax deduction on heavy trucks was available), but I rarely see them now.
Has the (almost) universal hate for them hurt their resale values enough that they're a good deal?
dj06482 wrote: I've wondered about these, they were the rage a few years back (every small business owner bought one while the tax deduction on heavy trucks was available), but I rarely see them now. Has the (almost) universal hate for them hurt their resale values enough that they're a good deal?
You must not have read my post about this truck being the most trendy vehicle produced in the last 12 or so years. I wouldn't pay more than $1000 less than a comparable Tahoe.
Mr_Clutch42 wrote:dj06482 wrote: I've wondered about these, they were the rage a few years back (every small business owner bought one while the tax deduction on heavy trucks was available), but I rarely see them now. Has the (almost) universal hate for them hurt their resale values enough that they're a good deal?You must not have read my post about this truck being the most trendy vehicle produced in the last 12 or so years. I wouldn't pay more than $1000 less than a comparable Tahoe.
Trendy goes both ways, they went from the coolest vehicle on earth to the most universally hated over the span of a few years. It's like no one wants to be seen in a 10 year old Mercedes-Benz S class, and so their resale plummets.
dj06482 wrote: Trendy goes both ways, they went from the coolest vehicle on earth to the most universally hated over the span of a few years.
I hated them before it was cool (from the first time I saw that big ugly kids' toy).
I have never been to crazy about the H2 or H3 they just don't look right. For what they are I would rather get a Tahoe or something. Now if you were talking H1 or retired military...sadly the military ones are getting shredded these days. There is actually a bar right on the Idaho/Oregon border that has a running military one. The owner has a business buying up old military rigs then either parting them out or selling them. I drool when I go past that place.
There is no practical purpose for he to have this other than it has been a dream car of hers for a LONG time. Again, happy Wife happy life is at play here. I just don't what a white elefant in the driveway other than that I could care less. It is going to be her car/truck. It is not my style but I don't hate it either. I guess it would be good in snow so that is a plus. The seating / comfort was much better than my expedition. Visibility was much better than I thought it was going to be. Backing up and what not was not problem but I am use to vehicles that are much bigger than this. Visibility is poor rite off the front fenders. Everything else is not a problem. You do sit REALLY high in this thing and that actually makes it easy to drive I think. I know this is at least one reason why my Wife likes it. I was looking down on every other large SUV we saw on the test drive. Since I am use to being cut off by SUV's because I drive an old Porsche all the time it was funny to see the large MB's and BMW SUV's yielding and not pulling out as they do when I am in the P car.
To me it is just another large GM truck type vehicle. To my Wife it is a dream that will hopefully come true.
Although after reading all the Hummer hate I was thinking how many Miata's I could run over in the Hummer before it got stuck. I am betting 3 or 4 anyway. I think my inner love of monster trucks is showing now.
I remember seeing my first one with my brother at the Chicago Auto Show, 2003, I think. We thought it was cool that they'd make a smaller version of the HMMWV. Then we saw the solid rear axle. I know military vehicles , so I remember saying, "What the berkeley is this?" Suburban guts? I'd rather have the Suburban, thank you.
In reply to Appleseed:
I'd rather have the solid axle imo. Much simpler. In reply to dean1484:
And Dean there is NO practical purpose for my wife to have a Wrangler either, but she always wanted one, loves it, and that's all I need to hear. Now I'm sure some loser jackass would see her driving it and call it a mall crawler and all types of other things, but neither of us could care less. We have a lot of offroad toys and I'd be happy to show them what a "mall crawler" can do.
I'm going to chime in with a personal opinion.
They are based on a Suburban. Some parts are 3/4 ton, but for the most part its a half-ton suburban. Do not take it off road except light stuff. Its a half-ton chassis asking it to carry 7500 lbs with bumps. Not pretty.
Many people also don't care about this aspect, but take a serious look at the body panels. They are big and flat, which means they are wavy. They shake and flex when driving. To me, it looks cheap.
I am not bad-mouthing. I'm simply saying that its a fine vehicle... as long as you understand you are paying twice as much money as you would if you just bought a 1/2 ton suburban. If I'm going to pay that much money for a Hummer, I want it to actually not break off road, and I want it to not have vibrating, flexy, wavy body panels.
I guess I'm saying... its not GRM. Its extra money for less vehicle IMHO. But if you (your wife) wants it, go for it knowing that you're paying for her happiness, not more vehicle.
EDIT: Here is what I wanted to say.... Its a half-ton suburban with horrific assembly quality, wavy crap body panels, and it was GM's pathetic attempt to capitalize on the Hummer name so that suckers would line up with their checkbooks. As long as you know what you're getting, go for it. Sorry... was that too blunt?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxrdwXXat14
Of course, this is one heavily-repeated internet example, but this is a pretty common occurrence. Stuff breaks on small obstacles in H2s.
The gigantic heavy ass tires don't help either. 315\70\17 iirc. They are expensive as few options are available.
I found the normal Yukon and Tahoe better put together inside. The last h2 I drove you could grab the shifter and shake it back and forth and hear all the plastic squeaking in the console and dash.
Plus the outward visibility is seriously conpromised.
In reply to Cotton:
So would I, I just saw the name and expected a mini HMMWV with independent axles.
I sometimes wonder where all the H2's went. Only person I ever knew that had one back in the day got tired of the single-digit mileage and traded it in on a VW TDI. I'm guessing people are ashamed to be seen in them and are fearful of eco-terrorists.
1988RedT2 wrote: I sometimes wonder where all the H2's went. Only person I ever knew that had one back in the day got tired of the single-digit mileage and traded it in on a VW TDI. I'm guessing people are ashamed to be seen in them and are fearful of eco-terrorists.
As a former (occasional) H1 driver, I can relate. My boss had an H1 that was actually pretty much a requirement to reach his mining properties in the desert. Suffice it to say he sold it to buy a Unimog.
In SoCal, it was constantly berated by old, rich bitches in a Prius or an old Mercedes. It doesn't go over well when you tell them that your bio-burning H1 is better for the atmosphere than their plastic, foreign battery Prius. After all, they are allowed in the commuter lane with only one passenger.
1988RedT2 wrote: I sometimes wonder where all the H2's went. Only person I ever knew that had one back in the day got tired of the single-digit mileage and traded it in on a VW TDI. I'm guessing people are ashamed to be seen in them and are fearful of eco-terrorists.
A lot of them are exported to various central and south American countries for use by pharmaceutical entrepreneurs. Considering how common they used to be, and how rare they became quickly, there must be a lot of that going on, otherwise they've got one hell of an attrition rate. However, I've not been able to pin down exact numbers anywhere.
Back on topic, no matter how good you think the rear visibility is, if you get it, I'd highly recommend a backup camera as an add-on.
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