Lof8
Lof8 Reader
10/31/13 5:41 p.m.

So my miata sits a little low for rallycross and I don't want to invest in adjustable coilovers. Does anyone have experience with these little rubber inserts? They claim a 1" raise and I'd think the spring rate would increse a little too. So has anyone tried these for a little boost in rallycross or other application? Coil Spacer

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner MegaDork
10/31/13 5:43 p.m.

They will definitely raise the spring rate. Might be interesting to try.

These will lift the car 3/8".
http://www.flyinmiata.com/index.php?deptid=4537&parentid=0&stocknumber=13-59000

ransom
ransom UberDork
10/31/13 5:45 p.m.

IIRC, mazdeuce played with that on his 2...

fritzsch
fritzsch HalfDork
10/31/13 7:29 p.m.

What if you want at least a 2 inch lift? Any stupid cheap way to do that? Without also messing up camber and stuff drastically?

Lof8
Lof8 Reader
10/31/13 7:52 p.m.

Use 2 of the coil spacers? of course the alignment specs will be effected, but it shouldn't be the end of the world in the dirt.

JohnyHachi6
JohnyHachi6 Dork
10/31/13 8:58 p.m.
fritzsch wrote: What if you want at least a 2 inch lift? Any stupid cheap way to do that? Without also messing up camber and stuff drastically?

Put on tires that are 4" larger in diameter

mazdeuce
mazdeuce SuperDork
10/31/13 9:40 p.m.

They do exactly what they say. To get the full height you need to jack up the car and really jam them in there. They will raise spring rate. They can also cause a stress riser on the spring and could conceivably cause the spring to break. I also contend that good bump stops are absolutely vital to good rallycross behavior.

irish44j
irish44j UberDork
10/31/13 10:18 p.m.

I'm using them on the front of my e30 (with H&R Sports, which were lower than I wanted for rallycross). I've had no problems with them for the full season they've been on there, and I like the extra height they give up front. Reverse rake is nice for rallycross, IMO.

Last few posts on this page of my build thread: http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/build-projects-and-project-cars/mein-e30-mein-sammlungkreuz-baugewinde-my-318i-ral/40440/page41/

Lof8
Lof8 Reader
11/1/13 1:52 p.m.

Josh, the donuts that you have, did they require install on the perch? or was that your choice? I'm hoping the ones that I ordered have the radiused spring groove on the top and bottom so that I can install them between coils rather than removing the whole shock and spring to get them in place.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla UberDork
11/1/13 2:28 p.m.

I used them in the rear of the OE springs on the Elantra many moons ago. They worked fairly well.

captdownshift
captdownshift New Reader
11/1/13 2:35 p.m.

i'd be sure to get some fatcat bumpstops

Lof8
Lof8 Reader
11/1/13 2:36 p.m.

I've got some nice civic bumpstops that cost 1/10th the fatcats.

yamaha
yamaha PowerDork
11/1/13 2:48 p.m.

Anyone know a source for these to fit a 2.5" coilover spring?

NONACK
NONACK Reader
11/1/13 3:13 p.m.
yamaha said: Anyone know a source for these to fit a 2.5" coilover spring?

I've had good results cutting up the big ones into 1-2" long sections and sticking those in smaller diameter springs.

yamaha
yamaha PowerDork
11/1/13 3:35 p.m.

In reply to NONACK:

I'm looking more for an "Isolator" to prevent the springs from making noise when I turn.....so rubber or poly would be great.

I have aluminum on both sides of the spring, so it makes noise.

NONACK
NONACK Reader
11/1/13 5:11 p.m.
yamaha said: I'm looking more for an "Isolator" to prevent the springs from making noise when I turn

Something like this maybe?

irish44j
irish44j UberDork
11/1/13 5:20 p.m.
Lof8 wrote: Josh, the donuts that you have, did they require install on the perch? or was that your choice? I'm hoping the ones that I ordered have the radiused spring groove on the top and bottom so that I can install them between coils rather than removing the whole shock and spring to get them in place.

There are two types. These have one side with an outward curve to it the perch, and one side with an inward curve to seat the spring.

I think you can also buy ones that are concave on both sides, for fitting between the coils.

btw, you can install these without removing everything if you can compress the spring inside the assembly a bit. They're not a connected circle.

Kenny_McCormic
Kenny_McCormic UltraDork
11/2/13 7:59 p.m.

http://www.amazon.com/Superior-18-1901-Donut-Spring-Spacer/dp/B00029K20W/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top a cheaper source, if anybody is wanting to experiment.

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