Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa UltimaDork
1/24/24 5:42 p.m.

There's a serial number on the cap, based on what I've seen on others it usually matches the key.

Shotgun?

Turboeric
Turboeric Reader
1/24/24 5:45 p.m.

Have you tried a locksmith? We've had good luck with a local one who seems to recognize any key ever made, and can whip up a replacement from a serial number even for some pretty oddball stuff.

Ranger50
Ranger50 MegaDork
1/24/24 5:52 p.m.

Hammer and screwdriver....

Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa UltimaDork
1/24/24 5:54 p.m.

In reply to Turboeric :

Not yet.  This is on the Carryall at my Dad's.  I'm trying to figure out what tools I'll need to take it off when I get back up there.

do need to figure out the locks for the doors and ignition.  So a locksmith might be in order.

ShawnG
ShawnG MegaDork
1/24/24 6:18 p.m.

Those keys are pretty generic. My lockout kit has a double ended tryout key that seems to work on most of them.

Go through your keyring and try everything that fits. One of them will probably open it.

Stampie
Stampie MegaDork
1/24/24 6:18 p.m.

Violence.  It's not always the answer but it is in this case.

APEowner
APEowner UltraDork
1/24/24 6:24 p.m.

A locksmith is the delicate answer. The brute force solution is the screw tipped slide hammer to pop the lock cylinder out.

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
1/24/24 6:43 p.m.

Shotgun?

...someone had to say it

TJL (Forum Supporter)
TJL (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
1/24/24 8:53 p.m.

They are not super secure. I used to have one and regularly got into it without the key. It ended when i popped the "handle" part off, exposing the threaded portion that could then easily be unthreaded and removed.

Floating Doc (Forum Supporter)
Floating Doc (Forum Supporter) UltimaDork
1/24/24 9:14 p.m.

I drilled one about 40 years ago.

jgrewe
jgrewe Dork
1/24/24 10:13 p.m.
John Welsh said:

Shotgun?

...someone had to say it

I was going to say hand grinder.

codrus (Forum Supporter)
codrus (Forum Supporter) PowerDork
1/24/24 10:34 p.m.

I highly doubt they're particularly secure, they probably rake open fairly easily.  No personal experience, but form what I can tell looking at Lockpicking Lawyer videos on youtube, that's something that takes $15 in tools and very little skill.

 

MyMiatas
MyMiatas HalfDork
1/25/24 2:37 p.m.

If it is a short filler tube like this Roadster one.

 

And you have  access to the back side like this. 

You can pull off the rubber tube and use a Phillips Straight edge to undo the lock

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jharry3
jharry3 Dork
1/25/24 3:37 p.m.

Drill out the cylinder and turn the mechanism with a screw driver?  

Or maybe screw a dent puller into the keyhole and yank out the lock? 

Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa UltimaDork
1/25/24 5:14 p.m.

In reply to MyMiatas :

This might be a solution.  The tank itself appears to be a fabbed together setup, I'd bet that there's a rubber line like that on there somewhere.  Whether I can get to it or not...

03Panther
03Panther PowerDork
1/26/24 9:12 a.m.
Stampie said:

Violence.  It's not always the answer but it is in this case.

Is ALWAYS an answer. Almost NEVER worth the consequences angel

HotNotch
HotNotch Reader
1/26/24 9:30 a.m.

Can you try a sliced tennis ball, or compressed air and a hose, and seal off against the top surface and pressurize the key slot to move the internal locks?

Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa UltimaDork
1/26/24 9:58 a.m.
HotNotch said:

Can you try a sliced tennis ball, or compressed air and a hose, and seal off against the top surface and pressurize the key slot to move the internal locks?

This is such an off the wall solution I think I'm gonna try it no matter what.

I'm gonna bet that the air will leak past the internal structure of the tumbler.

SkinnyG (Forum Supporter)
SkinnyG (Forum Supporter) PowerDork
1/26/24 10:05 a.m.

I drilled out the barrel when I got my '61 Chevy (and none of the keys that came with it fit anything on the truck). 

It doesn't take long, it's pretty soft metal.

(Also had to drill out the ignition barrel to get it out as well).

93gsxturbo
93gsxturbo UltraDork
1/26/24 11:08 a.m.

You can rake them open in about 1 minute with a bent paperclip or a jewelry screwdriver.

Or if you want to pick up a new skillset, get a set of lock picks and have at it.

 

Stampie
Stampie MegaDork
2/3/24 8:29 p.m.
Stampie said:

Violence.  It's not always the answer but it is in this case.

I see that you left your violence on the ground.

RacerBoy75
RacerBoy75 Reader
2/3/24 8:36 p.m.

The one time I was in the OP's situation, I just jammed a straight edged screwdriver in the key slot and turned it hard. It got the cap off pretty easily.

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