Anyone one ever spun with stability control on?

Maybe a better question would be, "Have you ever plowed straight off the road into the ditch because of traction control?"

wbjones wrote: physics is still physics … I wonder if you could spin a FWD car by lifting from full throttle mid corner … seems the sudden weight transfer would be able to overcome any nanny

You'd be surprised.

Of course, it probably just means that you drive straight off the road instead of spinning, but as we all know, if you spin it is the car's fault, but if you go straight off the road it is because you were driving too fast.

I haven't spun my Volvo. On the other hand, I haven't spun an RX-7 for something like nine years, so maybe I just don't do stupid things anymore.

Streetwiseguy wrote: Maybe a better question would be, "Have you ever plowed straight off the road into the ditch because of traction control?"

I do disable the traction control on teh Volvo because it works by cutting fuel, which I think is a bad thing to do when under boost. Mind you, I rather like the idea of traction control. I just wish my car worked by operating the brakes. Brakes are cheap to replace compared to pistons, and glowing rotors are pretty rad.

I do make a point of making the ABS throw a E36 M3fit at least twice per day. I paid for it, I'm gonna use that thing. Anytime the ABS isn't buzzing means I am braking like a weenie.

Trackmouse wrote:

wbjones wrote: physics is still physics … I wonder if you could spin a FWD car by lifting from full throttle mid corner… seems the sudden weight transfer would be able to overcome any nanny

Face palm. Read my above post. Honda Fit. Lift. Turn. Plant. Smile.

sorry …. didn't see anything in your post that said the Fit either DID go around or DIDN'T go around shrug

and besides you were writing about lift, then turn … my point was enter a corner full throttle, then lift, that throws the weight from the rear (under acceleration) to the front meaning that the rear now has less/zero grip …. wondering how the nannies fix that

Brett_Murphy wrote: I heard that the more modern stability and traction control systems can control steering input via the electric steering units and ABS modulation, making them almost impossible to spin.

Yep, mostly through ABS modulation though (they yank the brakes slightly on one side to steer), only a few cars allow a computer to actually control the steering right now.

Nope. But it WILL kill the car. Seriously. If you're not on the clutch fast enough TCS/SC will shut the throttle off, apply brakes etc to get the car under control and physically kill the engine. I hate it.

Mid Ohio.... Mustang GT. Transition from normal pavement to sealed pavement in the rain (stupidly). It started to save itself with understeer, then the back end came around.

Yes, 99 528it. I actually blame the traction control for the issue. Much like dusterbd said about the z06 (but with less power) ended up pinwheeling along a concrete divider on the freeway.

I spun out with two different FWD cars with full stability controls etc.

In both cases I was transitioning from a snow covered to polished ice mid turn. Car tried but no traction to do anything other than rotate slowly.

I did have one super scary moment in a crossover vehicle with stability control on gravel as another post said. It got into a nice slide through a wide sweeper and the instant I reached a certain angle on the wheel or some other trigger the stability control snapped the car the other way!!! Almost went off the outside of the corner. I was mostly surprised because I had turned it off before going onto that road. So for it to step in all of a sudden caught me off guard.

In reply to Streetwiseguy: the question is on "Stability control" not traction control. Two different things.

Of course you can spin with all the nannies on.

If the tires don't have any grip.

Yes, in multiple vehicles in snowy parking lots. My WRX's did it best. The 2009 did really well, and made me feel like Colin McRae when entering a snow-covered lot. The Mazda 3 I currently drive is not nearly as fun in similar circumstances.

Rupert wrote: In reply to amg_rx7: Probably a good thing!

It was a very good thing. In fact, I should have picked a bigger lot. There was exactly one tree in the lot in a spot that I didn't think I'd end up near if I lost it. I wound up a foot away from it....

The 4th gen z28s idea of stability control was, sense wheel spin, throw the throttle back at the driver and cut all throttle, it also wasn't very quick to notice shenanigans.

Went to do a big Ole power slide in wet weather, it noticed once the rear was already quite a bit out and cut the throttle and she went back the other way.

Most times it would just shut all the fun down and you couldn't go anywhere until you go out of it and got back in

Pretty sure the early traction control on the c5s is every bit as primitive, it is quite intrusive, think I could loop it in the wet with the tc on.

I haven't spun my Volvo. On the other hand, I haven't spun an RX-7 for something like nine years, so maybe I just don't do stupid things anymore.

I love the irony that i am an extremely safe driver and yet some people on the internet think i'm a threat to society. I haven't spun anything on the street in many many many years. I have done some experimentation with a few stability control cars that i and my parents have owned but they all gave me the impression that intentionally making them spin (cable parking brake is cheating, btw) would require something aggressive enough to be dangerous, so i never did it. I don't own a skidpad yet.

And to this day i have never lost ANY vehicle to any accident damage i caused. Ever. But i guess the downside of that type of driving is i dont have any stories to contribute to this thread.

while out checking lakes for enough ice this afternoon. On a snow covered town road, I anted to see what would happen with the Traction Control. So I planted my foot on the floor, wheels spinning, indicator flashing. No noticeable loss of power until I had to shut down. of course the Fiesta doesn't have a lot of excess power to lose.

Maybe in hugh powered cars it is programmed different.