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jrg77
jrg77 New Reader
6/3/10 7:00 p.m.

Was the RX-2!

http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/1772683635.html

Was there and RX-1?

Kia_racer
Kia_racer HalfDork
6/3/10 7:08 p.m.

Wasn't the first one the Cosmo?

grimmelshanks
grimmelshanks Reader
6/3/10 7:41 p.m.

nsu spider, actually

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim Dork
6/3/10 7:44 p.m.

First one for Mazda was the Cosmo 110, there's also an R-100 but IIRC the RXs start with RX-2.

Kia_racer
Kia_racer HalfDork
6/3/10 7:44 p.m.

NSU was first to use the Wankle engine. I meant the first Mazda to use it.

Edit: dang, Box beat me.

MrJoshua
MrJoshua SuperDork
6/3/10 7:45 p.m.

Ro-80?

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 New Reader
6/3/10 7:51 p.m.

Wow. My first car was an RX-2. Bought it for $500, drove it for four years, and sold it for $425. Maybe I should have held onto it? $13,500?!

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim Dork
6/3/10 7:52 p.m.

NSU Ro-80 was NSU's second attempt at a rotary-engined car. Might have been the first production two-rotor car (Wankel Spiders are single rotor).

RexSeven
RexSeven Dork
6/3/10 7:52 p.m.

Sounds like good fodder for Jalopnik's "Nice Price or Crack Pipe" feature.

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy Reader
6/3/10 8:35 p.m.

R100, about 1970 ish, 10a rotary, and so unreliable Mazda attempted to buy them all back and crush them. Thats why you hardly ever see one.

Mighta been a Cosmo in Japan before, the first of them had a 10a as well.

friedgreencorrado
friedgreencorrado SuperDork
6/3/10 9:19 p.m.
Streetwiseguy wrote: R100, about 1970 ish, 10a rotary, and so unreliable Mazda attempted to buy them all back and crush them. Thats why you hardly ever see one. Mighta been a Cosmo in Japan before, the first of them had a 10a as well.

IIRC, the RX5 was sold for about half a minute in the US under the "Cosmo" name. As much as I like rotaries (and remember their US history during the 70s, since I was a young car guy back then), I've never owned one, and don't know much about Mazda's history back home in Japan.

aussiesmg
aussiesmg SuperDork
6/3/10 9:26 p.m.

RX5/Cosmo was a 928 style rotary, bigger, plusher and trying to be a GT, a lot of autos and very different rear end with no LSD option.

That said I would have one

The early Cosmo was the first mass produced Mazda rotary, the R100 was second but first available for general consumption in multiple countries.

Jeff
Jeff Dork
6/3/10 9:38 p.m.

RX coupe prices are nuts. Yes, they are fairly rare having mostly rusted away years ago. But even rat traps sell for several grand.

I had an Rx-3 sp in the early 80's. It was a pain in the ass but when it was working, it was a hoot. I had a couple of Cibie Super Oscars on it and used to take it out on the old dirt roads in MI late at night.

oldsaw
oldsaw Dork
6/3/10 10:06 p.m.

Rx2's were superceded by the Rx3, the hot little sister that got asked to the prom more often because she looked and performed "Oh so much better"

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mad_machine
mad_machine SuperDork
6/4/10 7:55 a.m.

RX4 hotlinked for your pleasure....

Kia_racer
Kia_racer HalfDork
6/4/10 8:05 a.m.
mad_machine wrote: RX4 hotlinked for your pleasure....

Looks like a mini-Maverick, very cool.

Buzz Killington
Buzz Killington Reader
6/4/10 8:21 a.m.
jrg77 wrote: Was the RX-2! http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/1772683635.html Was there and RX-1?

you know that the "RX-" nomenclature is not sequential, right? they are/were all separate models. some people think that the next rotary vehicle shuold be the RX-9...nope.

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 New Reader
6/4/10 12:05 p.m.
Buzz Killington wrote:
jrg77 wrote: Was the RX-2! http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/1772683635.html Was there and RX-1?
you know that the "RX-" nomenclature is not sequential, right? they are/were all separate models. some people think that the next rotary vehicle shuold be the RX-9...nope.

Well, there is a pretty strong sequential nature to the series, it's just not absolute. R-100, RX-2, RX-3, RX-4, RX-5, RX-7, and RX-8. So they skipped "6". Other than that....

Keith
Keith SuperDork
6/4/10 12:25 p.m.

My parents had a couple of RX-4s when I was a kid. Alas, they were long gone before I realized just how cool they really were. One gave its life to protect my mother and sister from a Firebird. I seem to recall the apex seals went out at 50,000 miles. Might have been km.

For the rotorheads, I present the coolest car brochure ever. I found this in my dad's collection and scanned it. He thinks he picked it up at the Mazda factory as the first Cosmos came off the line. Jay Leno has a blow-up of one of the pages in his garage. Clic the pic for more.

DILYSI Dave
DILYSI Dave SuperDork
6/4/10 12:36 p.m.
oldsaw wrote: Rx2's were superceded by the Rx3, the hot little sister that got asked to the prom more often because she looked and performed "Oh so much better" .

Damn I like the hot little sister.

Car's not bad either.

Buzz Killington
Buzz Killington Reader
6/4/10 12:51 p.m.
1988RedT2 wrote:
Buzz Killington wrote: you know that the "RX-" nomenclature is not sequential, right? they are/were all separate models. some people think that the next rotary vehicle shuold be the RX-9...nope.
Well, there is a pretty strong sequential nature to the series, it's just not absolute. R-100, RX-2, RX-3, RX-4, RX-5, RX-7, and RX-8. So they skipped "6". Other than that....

well actually:

R-100 (compact coupe): 1968-73

R-130 (midsize coupe): 1969-71

RX-2 (midsize sedan/coupe): 1970-78

RX-3 (sports car): 1972-77

RX-4 (midsize sedan/coupe/wagon): 1972-78

RX-5 (GT coupe): 1975-81

RX-7 (sports car): 1978-2002

RX-8 (sports car): 2003-

so, no, I wouldn't say there is much "sequential" about it. concurrent models aren't really "sequential."

just like "MX-_", the RX- cars were distinct models. they just happen to have rotary engines. no one claims that the MX-3, MX-5, and MX-6 were sequential, right?

Buzz Killington
Buzz Killington Reader
6/4/10 12:54 p.m.
Keith wrote:

awesome. "our engine runs circles around your engine!"

WHAMMO!

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 New Reader
6/4/10 1:18 p.m.
Buzz Killington wrote:
1988RedT2 wrote:
Buzz Killington wrote: you know that the "RX-" nomenclature is not sequential, right? they are/were all separate models. some people think that the next rotary vehicle shuold be the RX-9...nope.
Well, there is a pretty strong sequential nature to the series, it's just not absolute. R-100, RX-2, RX-3, RX-4, RX-5, RX-7, and RX-8. So they skipped "6". Other than that....
well actually: R-100 (compact coupe): 1968-73 R-130 (midsize coupe): 1969-71 RX-2 (midsize sedan/coupe): 1970-78 RX-3 (sports car): 1972-77 RX-4 (midsize sedan/coupe/wagon): 1972-78 RX-5 (GT coupe): 1975-81 RX-7 (sports car): 1978-2002 RX-8 (sports car): 2003- so, no, I wouldn't say there is much "sequential" about it. concurrent models aren't really "sequential." just like "MX-_", the RX- cars were distinct models. they just happen to have rotary engines. no one claims that the MX-3, MX-5, and MX-6 were sequential, right?

LOL. I'm not going to argue with you. Your data speaks for itself.

Mazdax605
Mazdax605 Reader
6/4/10 1:41 p.m.

The RX-2 was an Italian designed chassis if I remember right,and used a 4 link with coil springs in the rear rather than the leaf springs the RX-3,-4 use. I love all of them,but my favorite is maybe the RX-2 as it is cool,but understated. The RX-3 is the one everyone wants,and sure I would like one,but the -2 is cooler in my opinion.

I have never seen a 4-door RX-3 in the US,but people claim they were sold here. Seeing 4-door RX-2's is quite common in the rotary world,but not so much the RX-4's aside from the odd wagon you see pop up here and there.

That price I think is more crack pipe than anything else,but if he gets it that is all the better for me who owns two old school rotaries(74 REPU,and 74 RX-4 coupe). I would love that car that is for sale as I love that Mazda orange,but not many people can swing that kind of cash in thsi economy on a 35+ year old Mazda.

Buzz Killington
Buzz Killington Reader
6/4/10 2:43 p.m.

leaf springs?!?!?? seriously...what the hell kind of sports car uses leaf springs, for Duntov's sake?

i would happily house any of those old mazders, including (and maybe especially) a REPU.

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