So, just before our MR2 burst into flames at Daytona, it was running well. Really well.
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Nice improvement! Switching to a racing seat in my rallycross car helped a lot. It's easier to concentrate on the course when you aren't trying to brace yourself in the seat at the same time.
Kirkey has so many seats. Which seat did you use?
John Prieve said:
Kirkey has so many seats. Which seat did you use?
This one: https://www.kirkeyracing.com/product/10/38170/SEAT-ALUMINUM-17-STANDARD-10-TO-20-LAYBACK
The reason it still looks like a work in progress is because it is. I'm kind of super picky about seats, so I usually spend several events with various tweaks to padding and expanding foam inserts and angle adjustments and they just look like butt for four months until I finally feel like I've nailed it, then I'll throw some fireproof cloth over top of it.
I have had a pair of Marrad TS2s which I had in an NA Miata and then an EA11R Cappuccino. I like how low the sides are, making getting in and out easier compared to other buckets. The cushions and upholstery is also super simple and easy to work with.
Construction on them looks rather complicated and involved, so I can see why Marrad stopped making them, but they're still amazing seats.
I'd like to keep them, but I think I need the money and space back, so they're currently for sale.
We did a A to B To C test back in the day with CG-Lock. Pro driver with CG-Lock first, then without, then with race seat. With the CG-Lock, the driver was significantly faster in the stock seat than without, and only slightly faster in the race seat, hence the claim on the box of faster lap times or your money back. *No longer applicable since the company is no longer around.
Being held in the car better really does help. When I'm at a HPDE driving a car without one, I feel like I'm falling out of the seat.
In reply to PMRacing :
In my E46 I would just move the seat back a bit, then push myself down into seat, yank the belt retractor to have it lock, then feed up the loose belt. Then move the seat back into position and it was perfect. Nice and tight, no moving around, no need to for a CG lock, which I did look into but decided it wouldn't be any more effective.
In reply to PMRacing :
This is promising - I have a Schroth Rallye 4 harness and have been wanting a bucket seat but if a pro-driver is negligibly faster in a bucket seat compared to just being bolted into the OEM seat, then I shouldn't waste my money on it.
te72
HalfDork
10/24/23 8:37 p.m.
I still wanna know who the dingus was that thought leather was a good surface for NB1 seats... they're nearly flat, and with no grip in the upholstery, in a very grippy sports car. I hope someone was flogged over that one. =P
Kidding aside, seat support / restraint makes all the difference. In the Exocet, I never even think twice about it, because it has buckets and harnesses. In the Supras, it does take your mind off of where it should be focused, because stock seats and three point belts.
Years ago I went from the stock seat in my first gen CRX to a race seat that King Motor Sports installed for me. May not have been faster but far better control and no cramping at the end of a race. Got one for my son's CRX for his Christmas gift that year... Dave
Evander
New Reader
10/13/24 9:19 a.m.
Side note. New seats are very heavy, and higher.
Removing that weight, and getting your own weight lower in the car can never be a bad thing
In reply to JG Pasterjak :
Has there been a recent write up on race seat padding, foam inserts, and fire resistant cloth? I did a quick search and didn't see any.
I've used the high density foam from garden knee pads. I cut up some shims for each side of the seat bolsters and stuff them under the cloth that came with the seat. Being a skinny guy it made a big difference. I was no longer hanging on to the steering wheel for support. Previously I was sliding from side to side even with a 6pt harness. I think the spray in foam is now made with the option of fire resistant. Open to suggestions to make various inserts for different drivers doing enduros.