SilverFleet wrote:
So, I'm thinking that I want one. I'd be happy with a R/T model with a stick, leather, and heated seats. I'd be even happier with one that has the Super Track Pack. I don't think I really need a SRT model, and besides, they are more money. I read all about these in GRM in a recent issue that talked about what to look for in one if you plan to drive it on track, which was useful. I'd really like to get a 2015-up model, and I'm fine waiting for them to depreciate a little more because they are a lot nicer, especially on the inside. I'm also a big guy. My Mazda is pretty small inside, and the Challenger is a LOT more comfortable inside for me. I've only ever sat in one; I've never driven one.
Let's do one of those good/bad lists:
The Good:
-Just look at it!
-370+ 'Merican thoroughbred horsies and the sound to match
-Spacious inside
-More refined/comfortable/quiet than an econobox
-Parts availability/consumable costs isn't bad
-Supposedly handles pretty well for it's size
-Seems to hold it's value well
The Bad:
-Not the greatest on gas
-It's pretty big, but trunk/storage is small
-The V8 Mustangs and Camaros have more power (Do I need more power?)
-2008-2014 interiors are like sitting in a giant Rubbermaid tote with a set of cheap white faced "indiglo" gauges from a clapped out Honda Civic modded after the first Fast & The Furious movie came out
The Unknown:
-It's a Dodge. Does that mean that in 3 years the thing will be a giant pile of rust and failure?
-Does RWD + 370HP = INSTANT DEATH in a New England winter? Even with snow tires?
-Are they generally giant piles of E36 M3?
-Will Bald Eagles nest in my yard and will I have daily F14 Tomcat flyovers afer I bring one home?
So, does anyone have one? Did anyone formerly have one? What do you guys think? Am I nuts?
I owned an orange ( I think it was called header orange? don't remember) '12 RT with track pack and 6 speed for a few years, bought it new. Put around 30,000 miles on it.
your good list: 370 hp.... These things have "torque management" if mine wasn't under warranty when I had it, I would have installed a "tune" to disable the torque management. Sometimes it felt fast, sometimes it did not. You knew the ECM was limiting your fun to preserve the warranty.
Interior room was amazing HOWEVER, I had the sunroof, which killed rear headroom and front head room when wearing a helmet. Look for a no sunroof car. Great comfort. Handling was better than it should have been. The weight has a penalty, mine chewed up the sway bar bushings.
Fuel mileage was not amazing, but I had the optional 3.91 rear. 17 town and 23 highway was about average, I drive conservatively.
Trunk is huge! but the opening is small... and the back seats fold down.
The only cosmetic issue that bothered me about the interior was the base steering wheel: the SRT had such a beautiful wheel (and it was heated), that I had wheel envy. The seats are nice and the dash is fancy soft plastic.
The bones are good, the engine has been in the trucks for a while, the manual trans is a tr-6060, is strong and nice. The track pack had (I believe) a larger getrag rear with clutch LSD. The stock R/T MTX exhaust was actually pretty sweet.
I winter drove mine: I got steelie cop car wheels and put snow tires on. The TPS sensors happened to just work, giving me individual tire pressures for each wheel without any reprogramming needed. Drove great in the snow that way. Drove terrible in the snow with the 200 treadwear tires the track pack fitted.
The track pack had a "full off" stability control mode, the non track pack and non srt's could not be fully disabled. This is a problem in snow and the stability control tries to keep you straight even when you are hooning (the engine power wins, but the brakes try real hard!)
If I were to buy a new one, I would get the CORE 392, or I think its called the scat pack now (basically an R/T with the 392)
Regardless of which model you get, you really really want to get the 'track pack. It is a bunch of little things, but is pretty comprehensive. Brakes, suspension bushings, shocks, springs, sway bars, exhaust, lsd, engine and stability control programming, and I'm sure other things I'm forgetting.
These are such great cruisers, I will have another. But I think I will buy a retired police charger for maximum fun/$ ratio.