classifieds

is something wrong in classifieds NO sports cars, it dont make sense?

Check the thread at the top of the page or go to:

http://grm.racingjunk.com

When you go to grm.racingjunk.com, there are indeed no ads under "sports cars". However, when you look under each individual car name (example: Triumph) you will find several ads.

The "new" classifieds section has some pros and cons to it. At least one pro? Many more ads. Con? Some of the ads are as bad as those found on CraigsList, as in, no pix AND no asking price.

is classic motorsports gonna have the classified add section in the actual magazine, with pix?

i don't like the racingjunk website....i find it too clumbsy to use....

ronbros wrote: is classic motorsports gonna have the classified add section in the actual magazine, with pix?

I'm not sure I understand your question, but yes, both magazines will still have classified sections with pictures.

The logistics of administering a classified section successfully are pretty resource-intensive. Getting help from RacingJunk.com has allowed us to juggle other things into the mix in house, and as integraguy has pointed out there are a LOT more ads to check out.

Their interface for listing an ad is a huge improvement over what we were using on our site, especially when it comes to nuts and bolts stuff like billing.

Tom, It seems like this change has helped GRM greatly, but I'm not sure it's as good for the readers. When I looked through the old online ads, I had a certain comfort level in knowing that the people that were advertising there were GRM people (for the most part). Not so with RJ.com. And if I want to advertise on RJ, I can without going through GRM, so what's the point?

jungle wrote: i don't like the racingjunk website....i find it too clumbsy to use....

+1. The only reason I would go there is to win a GRM toolbox.

Rusnak_322 wrote:

jungle wrote: i don't like the racingjunk website....i find it too clumbsy to use....

+1. The only reason I would go there is to win a GRM toolbox.

agreed

Why didn't GRM just partner with CL for all addictions?

bravenrace wrote: Tom, It seems like this change has helped GRM greatly, but I'm not sure it's as good for the readers. When I looked through the old online ads, I had a certain comfort level in knowing that the people that were advertising there were GRM people (for the most part). Not so with RJ.com. And if I want to advertise on RJ, I can without going through GRM, so what's the point?

You can advertise on Racingjunk.com without going through Grassroots Motorsports, but you can't list your classifieds in Grassroots Motorsports without going through racing junk.

I'm sorry you don't love racingjunk as much as I do. They're good people, we've been working with them quite a bit this year. In addition to helping with the classifieds, they're also sponsoring one of our major events this year, and gave a giant toolbox to one of our readers for free. They are A-OK in my book.

They're also watching this sort of feedback, so if you have constructive suggestions on how their site could be improved it would be better than saying you don't like it because it isn't GRM.

The advantage of a GRM-based classified section is that it is a relatively small community and buyers can have more of a sense that they are not buying from a Random Schmoe - perhaps a sense of accountability - I know for stuff I'm selling - I would probably cut a better deal for a GRMer than a RS and probably have a sense they would do the same. The negative is that it's a smaller buyer pool and well, we're kinda cheap. From a business perspective it makes sense to farm out things that aren't really your business or specialty (used car sales). Common struggle with companies trying to grow - balance the growth with the characteristics that brought you success in the first place.

Tom Heath wrote: They're also watching this sort of feedback, so if you have constructive suggestions on how their site could be improved it would be better than saying you don't like it because it isn't GRM.

Best of both worlds would be a GRM-centric section within RJ. Not sure if that's feasible, but it would solve the complaints that seem to have been rasied.

Just to chime in, CL is owned by eBay and is becoming more and more eBay like daily and we would rather support partners that are in the same space as we are.

Tom Heath wrote:

bravenrace wrote: Tom, It seems like this change has helped GRM greatly, but I'm not sure it's as good for the readers. When I looked through the old online ads, I had a certain comfort level in knowing that the people that were advertising there were GRM people (for the most part). Not so with RJ.com. And if I want to advertise on RJ, I can without going through GRM, so what's the point?

You can advertise on Racingjunk.com without going through Grassroots Motorsports, but you can't list your classifieds in Grassroots Motorsports without going through racing junk. I'm sorry you don't love racingjunk as much as I do. They're good people, we've been working with them quite a bit this year. In addition to helping with the classifieds, they're also sponsoring one of our major events this year, and gave a giant toolbox to one of our readers for free. They are A-OK in my book. They're also watching this sort of feedback, so if you have constructive suggestions on how their site could be improved it would be better than saying you don't like it because it isn't GRM.

I never said I didn't like it. I just don't like it as a substitute for the GRM classifieds, that's all. And there's really no way I can think of to make it better other than having a GRM reader only classified section.

Tom Heath wrote:

bravenrace wrote: Tom, It seems like this change has helped GRM greatly, but I'm not sure it's as good for the readers. When I looked through the old online ads, I had a certain comfort level in knowing that the people that were advertising there were GRM people (for the most part). Not so with RJ.com. And if I want to advertise on RJ, I can without going through GRM, so what's the point?

You can advertise on Racingjunk.com without going through Grassroots Motorsports, but you can't list your classifieds in Grassroots Motorsports without going through racing junk. I'm sorry you don't love racingjunk as much as I do. They're good people, we've been working with them quite a bit this year. In addition to helping with the classifieds, they're also sponsoring one of our major events this year, and gave a giant toolbox to one of our readers for free. They are A-OK in my book. They're also watching this sort of feedback, so if you have constructive suggestions on how their site could be improved it would be better than saying you don't like it because it isn't GRM.

It is responses like this that make me love the magazine and this board more and more. There are a lot of people and places where criticism and dissent is not welcomed and comments like these would just be deleted. Instead here in GRMland reasonable answers are given without taking offense and a case is made. Thanks Tom/

In reply to TJ:

I would usually agree with you, but feel in this case a statement like - "so if you have constructive suggestions on how their site could be improved it would be better than saying you don't like it because it isn't GRM. " - was putting words in my mouth. I didn't say I didn't like RacingJunk.com. In fact I love it. And my constructive suggestions was implied by my reason that I didn't like the change. IOW, what would make it better would be knowing when I was or was not dealing with a GRM reader.

I should probably know this, but does your GRM login work on RJ?

Andy Reid wrote: Just to chime in, CL is owned by eBay and is becoming more and more eBay like daily and we would rather support partners that are in the same space as we are.

Not majority owned...

I agree with most here, the old classified section was very good, and the RJ site doesn't allow me to see which one of you is posting it. I am MUCH less likely to use it to buy because it doesn't tie in with out membership.

Raze wrote:

Andy Reid wrote: Just to chime in, CL is owned by eBay and is becoming more and more eBay like daily and we would rather support partners that are in the same space as we are.

Not majority owned...

when I saw that, it was news to me and I googled it. It looks like ebay bought a 25% stake and then tried to sue craigslist because the refused to make commercial changes.

Sounds from that like CL is trying to resist changing into something like Ebay.

Can we just expand the $200X classifieds to maybe $10k? We could limit posting access to folks with 25 or more posts, or some other number (that may not be easy to do with your board software). That way you wouldn't get a bunch of one time posters trying to sell things.

I certainly don't know how much work it is to maintain the classifieds, but at least to me it would seem that having a GRM only classified section wouldn't be any harder than doing anything else on the website. But I could be wrong.

My biggest problem currently with Racing junk is that I can't see it. Zero support for IE6.

So if I had time here at work to browse through there, I can't. Basically, RacingJunk.com is completely worthless to me during work hours.

That seems like pretty good feedback.

It really bugs me that so many sites are 100% abandoning IE6, when so many large corporations have to use older platforms to support their custom Intranets. MS is getting us to use their platforms, then then bait-and-switching us to do more work just to keep up. But it's not that hard to make an IE6 acceptable site.

(and again, don't tell me to update, I can't- our intranet does not support anything but IE6 right now. there are rumors that we will update later this year, but I can't believe it until it happens).