Cobra Jet breaks records

Well if you trust everything that you read on the internet...It looks like a 2012 Mustang Cobra Jet (ADRL car owned by Bo Brutner) has just broken a lot of acceleration records for production vehicles. A buddy in the know says that the superchargers are making H U G E boost for a "production vehicle". 0-to-60 mph in 1.52 seconds (68.61 feet) 0-to-80 mph in 2.491 seconds (159.06 feet) 0-to-100 mph in 3.26 seconds (283.94 feet) 0-to-120 mph in 5.80 seconds (649.82 feet)

If these are real numbers then hats off to all involved.

I couldn't argue whether they're real or not, but I'm curious if the relation between them is relatively normal? For example, the 20mph jump from 60-80 took approximately 1-second, while the 20mph jump from 80-100 took about 3/4-second. Yet the 20mph jump from 100-120 shows over 2.5-seconds?

Those cars are about as production as a Fummins.

I have yet to see a 4L Whipple on a 5.4 4v yet in the dealer papers......

They're also supposed to come from the factory with a full drag tire setup.

petegossett wrote: I couldn't argue whether they're real or not, but I'm curious if the relation between them is relatively normal? For example, the 20mph jump from 60-80 took approximately 1-second, while the 20mph jump from 80-100 took about 3/4-second. Yet the 20mph jump from 100-120 shows over 2.5-seconds?

if they are real numbers I'd blame it on gearing and aero.
the power it takes to go from 100-120 is a lot more than 60-80. as speed goes up, the amount of power it takes to push a car through the air increases almost exponentially. I have the aero hp formula lyign around here somewhere, but you get the drift.
idk that I believe those numbers til I see em though lol
the difference between 60-80 and 80-100 could also involve a shift at about 65mph ish adding a bit of time

They would need to come with a full drag set up INCLUDING SLICKS to be able to come anywhere near those 0-60 numbers. Traction limits those numbers much more than power.

carguy123 wrote: They would need to come with a full drag set up INCLUDING SLICKS to be able to come anywhere near those 0-60 numbers. Traction limits those numbers much more than power.

Uh, they do. The Cobra Jet is a 50 or 100 unit production run per year of non-street legal cars built at the factory specifically for NHRA drag racing. They have the complete cages already and everything. You have to be a pretty high level drag racer to even be allowed to buy one.

Does it count, however? I couldn't register it or get a tag for it, so it's not streetable. A Veyron is, for what that's worth.

Javelin wrote:

carguy123 wrote: They would need to come with a full drag set up INCLUDING SLICKS to be able to come anywhere near those 0-60 numbers. Traction limits those numbers much more than power.

Uh, they do. The Cobra Jet is a 50 or 100 unit production run per year of non-street legal cars built at the factory specifically for NHRA drag racing. They have the complete cages already and everything. You have to be a pretty high level drag racer to even be allowed to buy one.

So you are saying these aren't slugs like the Cobra Jets of old?

I'd never heard of that special model.

It's part of the Ford FR500's: FR500C/FR500S/FR500GT/FR500CJ...each one a turnkey racer, in their respective series.

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I didn't realize they had them in 2008. This new one looks like a monster though.

DoctorBlade wrote: Does it count, however? I couldn't register it or get a tag for it, so it's not streetable. A Veyron is, for what that's worth.

The "record" is for production cars, not street cars. This is the same category as an FXX or something like that - except way faster at a dragstrip.

I'd try to get plates on it. Like the Hemi Dart guys of ye olde days

tuna55 wrote:

DoctorBlade wrote: Does it count, however? I couldn't register it or get a tag for it, so it's not streetable. A Veyron is, for what that's worth.

The "record" is for production cars, not street cars. This is the same category as an FXX or something like that - except way faster at a dragstrip. I'd try to get plates on it. Like the Hemi Dart guys of ye olde days

Ah. I was wondering if the part about "No VIN" would knock it out of most states, if not records. It wouldn't be taggable here.

DoctorBlade wrote:

tuna55 wrote:

DoctorBlade wrote: Does it count, however? I couldn't register it or get a tag for it, so it's not streetable. A Veyron is, for what that's worth.

The "record" is for production cars, not street cars. This is the same category as an FXX or something like that - except way faster at a dragstrip. I'd try to get plates on it. Like the Hemi Dart guys of ye olde days

Ah. I was wondering if the part about "No VIN" would knock it out of most states, if not records. It wouldn't be taggable here.

Anything is taggable - it just depends how... creative... you can get. I understand, though. It would definitely be very illegal.

tuna55 wrote:

DoctorBlade wrote:

tuna55 wrote:

DoctorBlade wrote: Does it count, however? I couldn't register it or get a tag for it, so it's not streetable. A Veyron is, for what that's worth.

The "record" is for production cars, not street cars. This is the same category as an FXX or something like that - except way faster at a dragstrip. I'd try to get plates on it. Like the Hemi Dart guys of ye olde days

Ah. I was wondering if the part about "No VIN" would knock it out of most states, if not records. It wouldn't be taggable here.

Anything is taggable - it just depends how... creative... you can get. I understand, though. It would definitely be very illegal.

Kids wreck mustangs everyday...

Guy swapping bodies to drive it on the street said: But insurance lady, the VIN says it's a V6. I don't know what you mean 'you can see the supercharger from here'?

Eh-hem....

http://www.fordracingparts.com/cobrajet/

I don't get it. This is no more production than me going to a dragster chassis shop and ordering a top fuel car. What a stupid series of "records". I'd be much more impressed by street legal records than strange limited aplication vinless production cars..

nocones wrote: I don't get it. This is no more production than me going to a restated chassis shop and ordering a top fuel car. What a stupid series of "records". I'd be much more impressed by street legal records than strange limited aplication vinless production cars..

It's a production car because Ford built it. You buy it and drive it. It's the quickest car built for sale to the public, VIN or not. I am not saying it means a whole lot, or has that much to be compared to, but it's legit.

No its not legit as I am 100% confident I can buy a quicker car from someone they just won't sell a road going version of a similar car. This record has to many qualifiers. It would be simple if it was street legal. Since it isn't the word production carries minimal meaning as everything is produced so you have to add qualifiers like production numbers or who makes it.
Not trying to dog the car as it is obviously impressive but the record stuff is silly.

nocones wrote: No its not legit as I am 100% confident I can buy a quicker car from someone they just won't sell a road going version of a similar car. This record has to many qualifiers. It would be simple if it was street legal. Since it isn't the word production carries minimal meaning as everything is produced so you have to add qualifiers like production numbers or who makes it. Not trying to dog the car as it is obviously impressive but the record stuff is silly.

OK, you win the internet.

I have no idea how it compares to other high end drag cars and don't care if it qualifies as a "production car," but I do know that 0-60 in 1.5 seconds is kind of mind blowingly fast. I had no idea a wheeled vehicle could do that. It compares pretty well to the hydraulically launched hyper coasters. (Top Thrill Dragster goes 0-120 in 4 seconds, this thing is 5.8 seconds.) I would love to drive it but feel like I would just put it into the wall.

I'm just babbling it's so fast. I'll pare it down to: Daaaaammmmmm.

dculberson wrote: I have no idea how it compares to other high end drag cars and don't care if it qualifies as a "production car," but I do know that 0-60 in 1.5 seconds is kind of mind blowingly fast. I had no idea a wheeled vehicle could do that. It compares pretty well to the hydraulically launched hyper coasters. (Top Thrill Dragster goes 0-120 in 4 seconds, this thing is 5.8 seconds.) I would love to drive it but feel like I would just put it into the wall. I'm just babbling it's so fast. I'll pare it down to: Daaaaammmmmm.

Well it's quite average as compared to fast super stock type cars, but very quick for stock ( a NHRA class) cars. The cars race on an index, though. ADRL is something together different.

Think of it like this. NASCAR is disliked by some because the cars bear no resemblance to real cars on the showroom right now. Folks on this board tend to clamor about how they would watch if the cars were bodies in white modified somewhat to make them safe, with modest upgrades, like the NASCAR of yore.

Analogously, the NHRA has screwed the same stuff up. "Pro Stock" is a 500 cubic inch engine, which no manufacturer ever made (it's not like the Cadillac) with Dominator carbs (which no production car ever had) on a tube chassis, a carbon body, a drag style transmission, shocks that actuate and provide downward pressure on launch, (for a while) converted to RWD from FWD cars, a clutch that is adjusted to hit harder or softer based on grams of weights. It's nothing like anything that you can actually go and buy. The ADRL is the answer to my prayers, much like the NASCAR thing. The ADRL supercar series is for pretty much stock anythings. You can go race a Bugatti, a Ferrari, a Buick or a Camaro. Whatever you want, if they make it and homologate it, you can race it. It's fantastic, bloody amazing, and I hope they succeed and get coverage the NHRA dreams about. The cars are amazing, and it makes you actually think about which one of them you could own. Nice idea.