Cobra Jet breaks records

dculberson wrote: I have no idea how it compares to other high end drag cars and don't care if it qualifies as a "production car," but I do know that 0-60 in 1.5 seconds is kind of mind blowingly fast. I had no idea a wheeled vehicle could do that. It compares pretty well to the hydraulically launched hyper coasters. (Top Thrill Dragster goes 0-120 in 4 seconds, this thing is 5.8 seconds.) I would love to drive it but feel like I would just put it into the wall. I'm just babbling it's so fast. I'll pare it down to: Daaaaammmmmm.

Also, a top fuel dragster does 0-60 in well under a second. it's hard to measure, but let's call it 1/2 second. 0-100 is also under a second. They launch pretty hard. And they only have one gear. Upwards of 8,000 horsepower will do that.

a ZX-14 can't even match those numbers

nocones wrote: No its not legit as I am 100% confident I can buy a quicker car from someone they just won't sell a road going version of a similar car. This record has to many qualifiers. It would be simple if it was street legal. Since it isn't the word production carries minimal meaning as everything is produced so you have to add qualifiers like production numbers or who makes it. Not trying to dog the car as it is obviously impressive but the record stuff is silly.

Uh, you need to read up on NHRA records man. It is production. Any drag racer can go to Ford and buy one and run the numbers, turn-key. The NHRA has been doing 50 car "production" records since the early 60's (426 max Wedge Dodge, S/S AMX, HEMI Barracuda, Cobra Jet Mustang, etc, etc, etc). It's an NHRA record, not a Gusiness record or FIA or anything like that.

Ok this makes sense they are NHRA records. OP should have specified that.
If a shop made 50 of some car would it count as production or is it limited to major manufacturer's?

nocones wrote: Ok this makes sense they are NHRA records. OP should have specified that. If a shop made 50 of some car would it count as production or is it limited to major manufacturer's?

it is not an NHRA record - for instance, it doesn't race in NHRA, but ADRL... It is the quickest production car made today.

Carro Atrezzi. Or the OP fomerly known as A401CJ wrote: a ZX-14 can't even match those numbers

I am not sure it's possible to go that fast on two wheels, the quickest bikes that I am familiar with have a 1/4 mile time just about 6.5 seconds. That's a Nitro Harley - They leave the line on one wheel and finish the race on one wheel. The riders actually push the front wheel down in the traps to trip the lights, otherwise, the back tire would do it.

tuna55 wrote:

nocones wrote: Ok this makes sense they are NHRA records. OP should have specified that. If a shop made 50 of some car would it count as production or is it limited to major manufacturer's?

it is not an NHRA record - for instance, it doesn't race in NHRA, but ADRL... It is the quickest production car made today.

The record in the article may be ADRL, but the CJ races in the NHRA as well. In fact, it was designed for it. NHRA Super Stock and Stock classes still have totally badass real production cars. GM did the COPO Camaro, Dodge has a few different Challengers, and Ford's been doing the CJ's for awhile. Old man Gartlits himself is racing one of the new Challengers.

You can even go back as far as the Thunderbolts and "Swiss Cheese" Pontiacs.

tuna55 wrote: Also, a top fuel dragster does 0-60 in well under a second. it's hard to measure, but let's call it 1/2 second. 0-100 is also under a second. They launch pretty hard. And they only have one gear. Upwards of 8,000 horsepower will do that.

That is just absurd. I think that is fast enough that I don't even want to drive one. Maybe.

dculberson wrote:

tuna55 wrote: Also, a top fuel dragster does 0-60 in well under a second. it's hard to measure, but let's call it 1/2 second. 0-100 is also under a second. They launch pretty hard. And they only have one gear. Upwards of 8,000 horsepower will do that.

That is just absurd. I think that is fast enough that I don't even want to drive one. Maybe.

I admit I would be scared - very scared. Would I do it? Abso-friggin-lutely.

tuna55 wrote:

dculberson wrote:

tuna55 wrote: Also, a top fuel dragster does 0-60 in well under a second. it's hard to measure, but let's call it 1/2 second. 0-100 is also under a second. They launch pretty hard. And they only have one gear. Upwards of 8,000 horsepower will do that.

That is just absurd. I think that is fast enough that I don't even want to drive one. Maybe.

I admit I would be scared - very scared. Would I do it? Abso-friggin-lutely.

And you would die.

tuna55 wrote: Well it's quite average as compared to fast super stock type cars, but very quick for stock ( a NHRA class) cars. The cars race on an index, though. ADRL is something together different. Think of it like this. NASCAR is disliked by some because the cars bear no resemblance to real cars on the showroom right now. Folks on this board tend to clamor about how they would watch if the cars were bodies in white modified somewhat to make them safe, with modest upgrades, like the NASCAR of yore. Analogously, the NHRA has screwed the same stuff up. "Pro Stock" is a 500 cubic inch engine, which no manufacturer ever made (it's not like the Cadillac) with Dominator carbs (which no production car ever had) on a tube chassis, a carbon body, a drag style transmission, shocks that actuate and provide downward pressure on launch, (for a while) converted to RWD from FWD cars, a clutch that is adjusted to hit harder or softer based on grams of weights. It's nothing like anything that you can actually go and buy. The ADRL is the answer to my prayers, much like the NASCAR thing. The ADRL supercar series is for pretty much stock anythings. You can go race a Bugatti, a Ferrari, a Buick or a Camaro. Whatever you want, if they make it and homologate it, you can race it. It's fantastic, bloody amazing, and I hope they succeed and get coverage the NHRA dreams about. The cars are amazing, and it makes you actually think about which one of them you could own. Nice idea.

Thanks for the explanation. I get it now.

"And you would die" That has happened too many times with highly experienced drivers. (Pilots?)

cwh wrote: "And you would die" That has happened too many times with highly experienced drivers. (Pilots?)

Agreed, although the NHRA cars are getting MUCH safer lately, since Medlan and Kalitta mainly. I'd still do it. NHRA is being stupid about not allowing the canopy RIGHT NOW and Goodyear still has a lot of 'splainin to do regarding Antron's "blowout" tire issue, but they are getting better fast.

I sell at a large GM dealer in Atlanta and just sold a friend a 2012 COPO Camaro. This will be a "production vehicle" as well. He chose the 427 to match the one he got from Vince Piggins in 69. Just like then GM chose who got one. They sold all 69 in a day. It will not have a VIN number,I don't think the Cobra Jet does either. Looking forward to seeing it hang the hoops this summer.

petegossett wrote: I couldn't argue whether they're real or not, but I'm curious if the relation between them is relatively normal? For example, the 20mph jump from 60-80 took approximately 1-second, while the 20mph jump from 80-100 took about 3/4-second. Yet the 20mph jump from 100-120 shows over 2.5-seconds?

My guess is there's a shift in the 60-80 range, and quite possibly another in the 100-120 spread

The ADRL is on live now. They are talking about the record. Pretty impressive, delivered just as from the OEM.

http://www.competitionplus.com/drag-racing/news/20695-live-videoaudio-adrl-spring-drags-bristol

Amazing. Street legal or not - this is my kind of drag racing. I love it. Better than ANYTHING NHRA has to offer now.

9" wheels.

Damn - they sound amazing. The guy in the first pair is 70 something year old. Owns a dealership -that's what I'd do.

Converting to 1/4, they're talking 9.20's. I am probably the only one who cares, but that's amazing.

I care too Tuna, and agreed, they are amazing!!