We’ve seen a teaser of the front end, but now Acura has confirmed that its new Integra will feature a five-door liftback design, akin to the first-gen Integra five-door originally released in the United States back in 1986:
This could mean that the new Integra is at least partly based on t…
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For reference, the Civic Hatch at a similar angle as the teaser image above:
Even if it's just a Civic Hatch derivative my interest is piqued. If they end up offering something that's basically a more luxurious Civic Type-R, manual transmission included, I'd be a candidate to buy a new one.
So is this new Integra basically a renamed ILX?
pointofdeparture said:
Even if it's just a Civic Hatch derivative my interest is piqued. If they end up offering something that's basically a more luxurious Civic Type-R, manual transmission included, I'd be a candidate to buy a new one.
Whew, that would be what........like a $45k-50k FWD car?
In reply to z31maniac :
The Type R is already a 45K car anyways out the door.
I'm glad to hear that it will be a lift back. I will reserve any and all other judgment until full details and images are out.
5 door? My interest just went to zero.
A choice of 3 or 5 is fine, but 5 only kills it for me.
noddaz
UberDork
9/28/21 5:52 p.m.
So sad.
And I do realize that there is virtually no market for a 2 door Integra.
That does not make me feel any better.
In reply to Gearheadotaku (Forum Supporter) :
3-door hatchbacks are basically dead in the US. I think VW was the last holdout with the GTI and they stopped selling those 5 years ago now. People just don't buy them, and I definitely wouldn't expect anyone to introduce a new one here anytime soon.
If people bought three-door hatchbacks as new cars, they'd be popular in today's market. But people don't, so they're not.
We've had a Civic Si as our "family car" for more than 20 years--first a 2000, now a 2014 sedan. A five-door version would definitely interest us.
I bought a brand new three door hatchback with manual transmission. I'm sorry there aren't more of me around. :(
bmw88rider said:
In reply to z31maniac :
The Type R is already a 45K car anyways out the door.
That's a good point, so probably another $10k on top of that? Just guessing.
Thats getting into some really serious competition at that price.
I'd love a five door hatchback Integra but berkeley forty thousand dollar economy cars. Seriously. And thirty thousand dollar economy cars while you're at it.
I think this one is going to be too expensive. Potential pass..
pointofdeparture said:
Even if it's just a Civic Hatch derivative my interest is piqued. If they end up offering something that's basically a more luxurious Civic Type-R, manual transmission included, I'd be a candidate to buy a new one.
Unless it's like $60k. Which, looking at CTR and ILX prices, I'm a little worried.
I'll still be happy that it even exists.
I'll admit, I just came here to post a popcorn-eating meme at the term "liftback".
noddaz said:
So sad.
And I do realize that there is virtually no market for a 2 door Integra.
That does not make me feel any better.
There sort of is, but they are buying $35k GT86s and BR-Zs.
In reply to pointofdeparture :
MINI still offers a 2-door hatchback.
I want to like it, having owned an Integra 20 years ago. But right now I have a hard time justifying any car purchases right now, given how little I drive the cars I already have.
The core of the strategy here isn't really any different than it's always been. It'll be a version of the existing Civic with "more" of "something". The problem I see is Acura's current handling of those upgrades. They added more power, AWD, and premium stuff to the Accord to make it a TLX. Assuming they're accurate, most reviews I've seen aren't particularly impressed with that car from a driving-engagement perspective. This sounds like the same treatment. Let's hope they get it right.
I understand why they've done it, but I don't like it.
I am, however, the last person to have a say in this discussion because not only would I never buy a new one, there is almost no chance in me buying a used one either.
Looks cool, I'll be interested to see the actual design! As far as cost...I think we all need a reality check of what inflation has ACTUALLY done since the ITR was last sold. The MSRP of a MY 2000 Type-R was $24,350. If we take the $45k from a Civic Type R as the example, that works back to still only ~$28,300 for a vehicle that would beat the pants off nearly anything else available on the road in the year 2000.
In reply to Ian F (Forum Supporter) :
I'll be honest, I legitimately didn't know MINI still did. The only new ones I ever see on the road anymore are the Countryman's and other 5-doors.
A lot of Honda designs out now make me look at their four door sedans and think "This needs to be a hatchback." The effort at putting a trunk opening behind a long sloping window works about as well as some 1960s fastback coupes for cargo loading. I think this is a good idea - not that I'd be able to afford one.
fanfoy
SuperDork
9/29/21 11:09 a.m.
The average new car buyer in the US is now 53 years old....
So not matter what they do, the new Integra will be a flop because it won't be a car for a 53 year old.
In reply to fanfoy :
I wouldn't be so sure. If that 53 year old is now working from home and the kids are mostly out of the house, they could be in the market for a fun driver that still retains a nod towards practicality.
Remember, the average snope car buyer is the target market for this car, not so much the GRM crowd.