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Colin Wood
Colin Wood Associate Editor
9/28/21 3:15 p.m.
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We’ve seen a teaser of the front end, but now Acura has confirmed that its new Integra will feature a five-door liftback design, akin to the first-gen Integra five-door originally released in the United States back in 1986:

This could mean that the new Integra is at least partly based on t…

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Colin Wood
Colin Wood Associate Editor
9/28/21 3:30 p.m.

For reference, the Civic Hatch at a similar angle as the teaser image above:

pointofdeparture
pointofdeparture UltimaDork
9/28/21 3:55 p.m.

Even if it's just a Civic Hatch derivative my interest is piqued. If they end up offering something that's basically a more luxurious Civic Type-R, manual transmission included, I'd be a candidate to buy a new one.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
9/28/21 3:58 p.m.

So is this new Integra basically a renamed ILX? 

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
9/28/21 4:01 p.m.
pointofdeparture said:

Even if it's just a Civic Hatch derivative my interest is piqued. If they end up offering something that's basically a more luxurious Civic Type-R, manual transmission included, I'd be a candidate to buy a new one.

Whew, that would be what........like a $45k-50k FWD car? 

bmw88rider
bmw88rider UltraDork
9/28/21 4:55 p.m.

In reply to z31maniac :

The Type R is already a 45K car anyways out the door. 

captdownshift (Forum Supporter)
captdownshift (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
9/28/21 4:57 p.m.

I'm glad to hear that it will be a lift back. I will reserve any and all other judgment until full details and images are out.

Gearheadotaku (Forum Supporter)
Gearheadotaku (Forum Supporter) UltimaDork
9/28/21 5:33 p.m.

5 door? My interest just went to zero.

A choice of 3 or 5 is fine, but 5 only kills it for me.

noddaz
noddaz UberDork
9/28/21 5:52 p.m.

So sad.

And I do realize that there is virtually no market for a 2 door Integra.

That does not make me feel any better.

pointofdeparture
pointofdeparture UltimaDork
9/28/21 5:53 p.m.

In reply to Gearheadotaku (Forum Supporter) :

3-door hatchbacks are basically dead in the US. I think VW was the last holdout with the GTI and they stopped selling those 5 years ago now. People just don't buy them, and I definitely wouldn't expect anyone to introduce a new one here anytime soon.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
9/28/21 6:46 p.m.

If people bought three-door hatchbacks as new cars, they'd be popular in today's market. But people don't, so they're not. sad

We've had a Civic Si as our "family car" for more than 20 years--first a 2000, now a 2014 sedan. A five-door version would definitely interest us. 

MrFancypants
MrFancypants Reader
9/28/21 8:05 p.m.

I bought a brand new three door hatchback with manual transmission. I'm sorry there aren't more of me around. :(

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
9/28/21 8:52 p.m.
bmw88rider said:

In reply to z31maniac :

The Type R is already a 45K car anyways out the door. 

That's a good point, so probably another $10k on top of that? Just guessing.

Thats getting into some really serious competition at that price.

OHSCrifle
OHSCrifle UltraDork
9/28/21 8:58 p.m.

I'd love a five door hatchback Integra but berkeley forty thousand dollar economy cars. Seriously. And thirty thousand dollar economy cars while you're at it. 

dxman92
dxman92 Dork
9/28/21 10:23 p.m.

I think this one is going to be too expensive. Potential pass..

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
9/28/21 10:29 p.m.
pointofdeparture said:

Even if it's just a Civic Hatch derivative my interest is piqued. If they end up offering something that's basically a more luxurious Civic Type-R, manual transmission included, I'd be a candidate to buy a new one.

Unless it's like $60k.  Which, looking at CTR and ILX prices, I'm a little worried.

I'll still be happy that it even exists.

 

I'll admit, I just came here to post a popcorn-eating meme at the term "liftback".

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
9/28/21 10:30 p.m.
noddaz said:

So sad.

And I do realize that there is virtually no market for a 2 door Integra.

That does not make me feel any better.

There sort of is, but they are buying $35k GT86s and BR-Zs.

Ian F (Forum Supporter)
Ian F (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
9/28/21 10:31 p.m.

In reply to pointofdeparture :

MINI still offers a 2-door hatchback.

I want to like it, having owned an Integra 20 years ago. But right now I have a hard time justifying any car purchases right now, given how little I drive the cars I already have.

Matt B (fs)
Matt B (fs) UltraDork
9/29/21 8:47 a.m.

The core of the strategy here isn't really any different than it's always been. It'll be a version of the existing Civic with "more" of "something".  The problem I see is Acura's current handling of those upgrades.  They added more power, AWD, and premium stuff to the Accord to make it a TLX.  Assuming they're accurate, most reviews I've seen aren't particularly impressed with that car from a driving-engagement perspective.  This sounds like the same treatment.  Let's hope they get it right.

iansane
iansane HalfDork
9/29/21 9:16 a.m.

I understand why they've done it, but I don't like it.

I am, however, the last person to have a say in this discussion because not only would I never buy a new one, there is almost no chance in me buying a used one either.

sobe_death
sobe_death Dork
9/29/21 9:50 a.m.

Looks cool, I'll be interested to see the actual design!  As far as cost...I think we all need a reality check of what inflation has ACTUALLY done since the ITR was last sold.  The MSRP of a MY 2000 Type-R was $24,350.  If we take the $45k from a Civic Type R as the example, that works back to still only ~$28,300 for a vehicle that would beat the pants off nearly anything else available on the road in the year 2000. 

pointofdeparture
pointofdeparture UltimaDork
9/29/21 9:58 a.m.

In reply to Ian F (Forum Supporter) :

I'll be honest, I legitimately didn't know MINI still did. The only new ones I ever see on the road anymore are the Countryman's and other 5-doors.

MadScientistMatt
MadScientistMatt UltimaDork
9/29/21 10:39 a.m.

A lot of Honda designs out now make me look at their four door sedans and think "This needs to be a hatchback." The effort at putting a trunk opening behind a long sloping window works about as well as some 1960s fastback coupes for cargo loading. I think this is a good idea - not that I'd be able to afford one.

fanfoy
fanfoy SuperDork
9/29/21 11:09 a.m.

The average new car buyer in the US is now 53 years old....

So not matter what they do, the new Integra will be a flop because it won't be a car for a 53 year old.

Ian F (Forum Supporter)
Ian F (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
9/29/21 11:32 a.m.

In reply to fanfoy :

I wouldn't be so sure. If that 53 year old is now working from home and the kids are mostly out of the house, they could be in the market for a fun driver that still retains a nod towards practicality.

Remember, the average snope car buyer is the target market for this car, not so much the GRM crowd.

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