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dankspeed
dankspeed HalfDork
3/13/19 7:35 p.m.
einy said:

That Speed 3 looks pretty clean, except for weird looking outlet pipe angles on the supposed “performance” exhaust.  Looked at one of those when in a similar spot back in 2011 but bought a four door GTI instead ... lots more room, nicer interior fit/finish, willing to take a chance on quality.  So far, pretty ok on that front at 82k or so miles.  GTI engine also ticks ar idle, but that is because it is direct injected.  Can’t recall if the Speed 3 is also, but if so that sound is probably normal.

What has your gti needed repair wise since youve owned it?

DirtyBird222
DirtyBird222 UberDork
3/13/19 7:37 p.m.
dankspeed said:
mr2s2000elise said:

Owned a ms3 for 4 years. 2012 one. 

 

With your requirements, I would get a TSX 

Forgot all about these. Also any thoughts on a four door civic Si?

 

09-11 Four door Si all day baby. I miss mine and once I get rid of either my E36 M3 or S2000 I'm going back to one for a DD. They are at a decent price point now, the only downside is trying to find one that hasn't been molested. 

einy
einy HalfDork
3/13/19 7:47 p.m.

In reply to dankspeed :

Cam chain tensioner update (done proactively at the end of factory powertrain warranty bu Dubwerx in Cincy) at cost to me of $1100, but I will be getting that back as part of a class action settlement with VW sometime in 2019, allegedly.  If you are looking at a GTI, make sure it has the current design tensioner in it ... any decent mechanic can look via a rubber inspection plug in the front cover at the tensioner’s cast in part number.  Compare that to the current p/n or just talk to Dubwerx guys.  That shop kicks ***.  

Also, Intake manifold replaced under warranty, which then was extended to 105k miles, and a decarbon of intake valves at about 50k mikes.  

Fine other than that, and still solid body structure.

DirtyBird222
DirtyBird222 UberDork
3/13/19 7:48 p.m.

You know going back and reading about the double stroller option. I was able to fit my double stroller into the 9th gen 4dr Si trunk but couldn't fit much more than a backpack or duffle bag once that was in the trunk. Front seat space does get a little tight with rear facing car seats. The 9th gen Si interior materials are better quality than the 8th gen and everything else is a bit more refined. The ILX is pretty much the same car as the 9th gen Si without an LSD and the earlier models of the ILX didn't have split folding rear seats. 

I would stay away from any WRX from that year range in that price range. I know some have had luck with theirs but honestly most of them have been beat to E36 M3, neglected, modded, on top of existing issues. The interior quality sub-par compared to the Si. Plus the hatchback variants don't have much usable space either. 

I know you could probably find a BMW 128 (i know 2dr) or a 328 in that price range. I've started to see them drop down there. 

This isn't on your list and doesn't have a lot of power but it might provide you with everything you need with lots of useable space.....2nd and 3rd Gen Fits. The 3rd gens come with a 6-speed. The magic seats are pretty cool and flexible for hauling odd shaped objects. The 2nd gen seats leave a lot to be desired for. Also the hatch space is excellent. 

dankspeed
dankspeed HalfDork
3/13/19 8:04 p.m.
einy said:

In reply to dankspeed :

Cam chain tensioner update (done proactively at the end of factory powertrain warranty bu Dubwerx in Cincy) at cost to me of $1100, but I will be getting that back as part of a class action settlement with VW sometime in 2019, allegedly.  If you are looking at a GTI, make sure it has the current design tensioner in it ... any decent mechanic can look via a rubber inspection plug in the front cover at the tensioner’s cast in part number.  Compare that to the current p/n or just talk to Dubwerx guys.  That shop kicks ***.  

Also, Intake manifold replaced under warranty, which then was extended to 105k miles, and a decarbon of intake valves at about 50k mikes.  

Fine other than that, and still solid body structure.

Is Dubwerx owned\operated by a guy named Ryan? Friend of a friend back in the day owned a VW shop over on the eastside, Not sure if it was dubwerx though.

dankspeed
dankspeed HalfDork
3/13/19 8:05 p.m.
DirtyBird222 said:

You know going back and reading about the double stroller option. I was able to fit my double stroller into the 9th gen 4dr Si trunk but couldn't fit much more than a backpack or duffle bag once that was in the trunk. Front seat space does get a little tight with rear facing car seats. The 9th gen Si interior materials are better quality than the 8th gen and everything else is a bit more refined. The ILX is pretty much the same car as the 9th gen Si without an LSD and the earlier models of the ILX didn't have split folding rear seats. 

I would stay away from any WRX from that year range in that price range. I know some have had luck with theirs but honestly most of them have been beat to E36 M3, neglected, modded, on top of existing issues. The interior quality sub-par compared to the Si. Plus the hatchback variants don't have much usable space either. 

I know you could probably find a BMW 128 (i know 2dr) or a 328 in that price range. I've started to see them drop down there. 

This isn't on your list and doesn't have a lot of power but it might provide you with everything you need with lots of useable space.....2nd and 3rd Gen Fits. The 3rd gens come with a 6-speed. The magic seats are pretty cool and flexible for hauling odd shaped objects. The 2nd gen seats leave a lot to be desired for. Also the hatch space is excellent. 

Seen a couple 128s pop up but yeah 2 door. Havent seen many other BMWs really that fit my needs .

einy
einy HalfDork
3/14/19 6:01 a.m.

In reply to dankspeed :

Yup ... Ryan Clo is the owner.  Down in Madisonville, on Madison Road, on the opposite side of the railroad overpass from Overbeck Auto (another superb place if you don't have a VW - only because of Dubwerx - and are looking for a place with an outstanding reputation).

morello159
morello159 New Reader
3/14/19 8:41 a.m.

Another vote here for the accord sport. Hell, even a regular accord (4 cyl) with a manual is great transportation. 

dankspeed
dankspeed HalfDork
3/14/19 10:28 a.m.
morello159 said:

Another vote here for the accord sport. Hell, even a regular accord (4 cyl) with a manual is great transportation. 

Anyone use the paddle shifters that came on the auto accord sport? Buddy at work had an auto one but never used the paddles to shift. Will the car upshift and downshift immediately or do you have to wait?

 

 

PeterAK
PeterAK Dork
3/14/19 11:24 a.m.

I had a 2015 Accord Sport with manual.  Great dad car.  I could fit two kids bikes in the trunk, or my own 60 cm road bike, with both wheels off.  The automatic in that generation is a CVT.  

dankspeed
dankspeed HalfDork
3/15/19 2:56 p.m.

Not sure if CX5 was mentioned by me or others but planning on checking one out over the weekend.

Any opinions please share. 

dxman92
dxman92 Reader
3/16/19 2:01 a.m.

CX-5 is a great choice. You can get 13-16 with a 6 speed manual. I drove mine from 88k-130k miles before it got totaled in a accident. I drive 66 miles a day to work on the highway and it got 32-34 mpg all day long. Mazda 6 or even a Mazda 5 are both good choices. Both are available with a stick shift. Ill throw out a VW Jetta or a Passat. SWMBO has a 14 Jetta with the 2 liter engine and the trunk is huge. The Passat has an even bigger trunk and more legroom. You can get both with a manual transmission. The 11-14 ish? Passat with the 2.5 5 cylinder and a stick seems to be a cheap car. 11-14 Jetta with the 2 liters are cheap too. 

dankspeed
dankspeed HalfDork
3/16/19 8:35 a.m.
dxman92 said:

CX-5 is a great choice. You can get 13-16 with a 6 speed manual. I drove mine from 88k-130k miles before it got totaled in a accident. I drive 66 miles a day to work on the highway and it got 32-34 mpg all day long. Mazda 6 or even a Mazda 5 are both good choices. Both are available with a stick shift. Ill throw out a VW Jetta or a Passat. SWMBO has a 14 Jetta with the 2 liter engine and the trunk is huge. The Passat has an even bigger trunk and more legroom. You can get both with a manual transmission. The 11-14 ish? Passat with the 2.5 5 cylinder and a stick seems to be a cheap car. 11-14 Jetta with the 2 liters are cheap too. 

Whats your experience with reliability with her Jetta? Also looking at the 6. Had a mazda 5. Didnt care for the seat configuration.

conesare2seconds
conesare2seconds Dork
3/16/19 11:39 a.m.

In reply to dankspeed :

i use them sometimes for engine braking.  Does a pretty good job of emulating a non-cvt and is reasonably quick to make shifts.  

Another vote for Accord Sport here, from an owner.  

 

cdowd
cdowd Dork
3/16/19 11:46 a.m.

I recently bought a manual Trans 2013 Acura TL.  The 13 and 14 got away from as garish a nose.  Very nice car to drive.  Has all the bells and whistles(navigation etc)

cdowd
cdowd Dork
3/16/19 11:47 a.m.

dxman92
dxman92 Reader
3/16/19 1:21 p.m.

Her experience with her Jetta has been great. Nothing other than routine maintenance and a minor recall. She has had a few Jettas in the past. I told her if she wanted to get another VW, get one with as few options as possible. You can get the Jetta S with the 2 liter engine from 12-15. 

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=505334555&zip=45023&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D45023%26sortBy%3Drelevance%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26marketExtension%3Don%26modelCodeList%3DCX-5%26makeCodeList%3DMAZDA%26searchRadius%3D200%26transmissionCodes%3DMAN&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0&modelCodeList=CX-5&makeCodeList=MAZDA&searchRadius=200&makeCode1=MAZDA&modelCode1=CX-5&clickType=listing

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=509388813&zip=45023&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D45023%26startYear%3D2012%26sortBy%3Drelevance%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26marketExtension%3Don%26endYear%3D2015%26modelCodeList%3DPASS%26makeCodeList%3DVOLKS%26searchRadius%3D200%26transmissionCodes%3DMAN&startYear=2012&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0&endYear=2015&modelCodeList=PASS&makeCodeList=VOLKS&searchRadius=200&makeCode1=VOLKS&modelCode1=PASS&clickType=listing

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=499356031&zip=45023&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D45023%26startYear%3D2012%26sortBy%3Drelevance%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26marketExtension%3Don%26endYear%3D2015%26modelCodeList%3DJET%26makeCodeList%3DVOLKS%26searchRadius%3D200%26trimCodeList%3DJET%257CS%26transmissionCodes%3DMAN&startYear=2012&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0&endYear=2015&modelCodeList=JET&makeCodeList=VOLKS&searchRadius=200&makeCode1=VOLKS&modelCode1=JET&clickType=listing

 

Also, did you have a Nissan Versa sedan at one point? How about another one? You could get a newer low miles certified or even a brand new one:

 

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=502518048&zip=45023&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D45023%26sortBy%3Drelevance%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26marketExtension%3Don%26modelCodeList%3DVERSA%26makeCodeList%3DNISSAN%26searchRadius%3D200%26transmissionCodes%3DMAN&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0&modelCodeList=VERSA&makeCodeList=NISSAN&searchRadius=200&makeCode1=NISSAN&modelCode1=VERSA&digitalRetail=true&clickType=listing

 

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=506322417&zip=45023&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D45023%26sortBy%3Drelevance%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26marketExtension%3Don%26modhttps://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=506591274&zip=45023&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D45023%26sortBy%3Drelevance%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26marketExtension%3Don%26modelCodeList%3DNISVERSNOT%26makeCodeList%3DNISSAN%26searchRadius%3D200%26transmissionCodes%3DMAN&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0&modelCodeList=NISVERSNOT&makeCodeList=NISSAN&searchRadius=200&makeCode1=NISSAN&modelCode1=NISVERSNOT&digitalRetail=true&clickType=listingelCodeList%3DVERSA%26makeCodeList%3DNISSAN%26searchRadius%3D200%26transmissionCodes%3DMAN&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0&modelCodeList=VERSA&makeCodeList=NISSAN&searchRadius=200&makeCode1=NISSAN&modelCode1=VERSA&digitalRetail=true&clickType=listing

 

I really like my Versa Note hatchback. You can fit a lot in the back w/seats up. Also, I work as a Lyft driver on the side and get comments all the time from passengers about how much room is in the back..

 

 

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=506591274&zip=45023&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D45023%26sortBy%3Drelevance%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26marketExtension%3Don%26modelCodeList%3DNISVERSNOT%26makeCodeList%3DNISSAN%26searchRadius%3D200%26transmissionCodes%3DMAN&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0&modelCodeList=NISVERSNOT&makeCodeList=NISSAN&searchRadius=200&makeCode1=NISSAN&modelCode1=NISVERSNOT&digitalRetail=true&clickType=listing

 

 

dankspeed
dankspeed HalfDork
3/16/19 7:20 p.m.
dxman92 said:

Her experience with her Jetta has been great. Nothing other than routine maintenance and a minor recall. She has had a few Jettas in the past. I told her if she wanted to get another VW, get one with as few options as possible. You can get the Jetta S with the 2 liter engine from 12-15. 

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=505334555&zip=45023&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D45023%26sortBy%3Drelevance%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26marketExtension%3Don%26modelCodeList%3DCX-5%26makeCodeList%3DMAZDA%26searchRadius%3D200%26transmissionCodes%3DMAN&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0&modelCodeList=CX-5&makeCodeList=MAZDA&searchRadius=200&makeCode1=MAZDA&modelCode1=CX-5&clickType=listing

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=509388813&zip=45023&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D45023%26startYear%3D2012%26sortBy%3Drelevance%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26marketExtension%3Don%26endYear%3D2015%26modelCodeList%3DPASS%26makeCodeList%3DVOLKS%26searchRadius%3D200%26transmissionCodes%3DMAN&startYear=2012&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0&endYear=2015&modelCodeList=PASS&makeCodeList=VOLKS&searchRadius=200&makeCode1=VOLKS&modelCode1=PASS&clickType=listing

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=499356031&zip=45023&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D45023%26startYear%3D2012%26sortBy%3Drelevance%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26marketExtension%3Don%26endYear%3D2015%26modelCodeList%3DJET%26makeCodeList%3DVOLKS%26searchRadius%3D200%26trimCodeList%3DJET%257CS%26transmissionCodes%3DMAN&startYear=2012&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0&endYear=2015&modelCodeList=JET&makeCodeList=VOLKS&searchRadius=200&makeCode1=VOLKS&modelCode1=JET&clickType=listing

 

Also, did you have a Nissan Versa sedan at one point? How about another one? You could get a newer low miles certified or even a brand new one:

 

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=502518048&zip=45023&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D45023%26sortBy%3Drelevance%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26marketExtension%3Don%26modelCodeList%3DVERSA%26makeCodeList%3DNISSAN%26searchRadius%3D200%26transmissionCodes%3DMAN&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0&modelCodeList=VERSA&makeCodeList=NISSAN&searchRadius=200&makeCode1=NISSAN&modelCode1=VERSA&digitalRetail=true&clickType=listing

 

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=506322417&zip=45023&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D45023%26sortBy%3Drelevance%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26marketExtension%3Don%26modhttps://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=506591274&zip=45023&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D45023%26sortBy%3Drelevance%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26marketExtension%3Don%26modelCodeList%3DNISVERSNOT%26makeCodeList%3DNISSAN%26searchRadius%3D200%26transmissionCodes%3DMAN&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0&modelCodeList=NISVERSNOT&makeCodeList=NISSAN&searchRadius=200&makeCode1=NISSAN&modelCode1=NISVERSNOT&digitalRetail=true&clickType=listingelCodeList%3DVERSA%26makeCodeList%3DNISSAN%26searchRadius%3D200%26transmissionCodes%3DMAN&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0&modelCodeList=VERSA&makeCodeList=NISSAN&searchRadius=200&makeCode1=NISSAN&modelCode1=VERSA&digitalRetail=true&clickType=listing

 

I really like my Versa Note hatchback. You can fit a lot in the back w/seats up. Also, I work as a Lyft driver on the side and get comments all the time from passengers about how much room is in the back..

 

 

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=506591274&zip=45023&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D45023%26sortBy%3Drelevance%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26marketExtension%3Don%26modelCodeList%3DNISVERSNOT%26makeCodeList%3DNISSAN%26searchRadius%3D200%26transmissionCodes%3DMAN&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0&modelCodeList=NISVERSNOT&makeCodeList=NISSAN&searchRadius=200&makeCode1=NISSAN&modelCode1=NISVERSNOT&digitalRetail=true&clickType=listing

 

 

Thanks for posting those links. May have to go look at the cx5 and jetta tomorrow. 

Never owned a versa and not really a fan of the styling. That hatch just looks too small of a car. I like the 4 door sedan a lot better. 

 

dankspeed
dankspeed HalfDork
3/17/19 12:59 p.m.
GTwannaB said:

Also ILX, I see surprisingly newish GTI and GLIs in that range. Lancer GT or GTS with 2.4l. Elantra GT hatch. IS250. Not sure what year they stopped putting manuals in Maximas. Mazda6. I have seen Newer Sentra turbos dip near 14, doubt a NISMO is that cheap yet. Last gen Sentra Spec V. 

Haven't seen any turbo sentra around 14K but looks like Nissan is giving away base model Versas and Sentras. Where's nissan's quality at these days?

white_fly
white_fly HalfDork
3/17/19 10:14 p.m.
pontiacstogo said:

Mazda 6?

Had a 2016 Mazda 6 for a few years - it was smooth, fun to drive, handled well and never cost me a penny outside of regular oil changes.

My brother has had a 2014 6 since it was new and it's an incredibly impressive car to me. Feels great in virtually all situations, amazing fuel economy, perfect reliability thus far, even low insurance costs.

dankspeed
dankspeed HalfDork
3/22/19 5:34 p.m.

The search is over. Settled on practicality over speed. 

Love the xb so far.

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