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crankwalk
crankwalk Dork
7/30/17 7:48 p.m.
nutherjrfan wrote: Why isn't anyone talking about putting an sr20det in a Skyline? http://www.automotiveforums.com/t387852-sr20det_in_a_skyline_.html And here we go.

Lots of people have put everything into everything.

ProDarwin
ProDarwin PowerDork
7/30/17 8:18 p.m.
pointofdeparture wrote: In reply to yupididit: If I do another Japanese car anytime soon that's my plan. I loved my Z32 but hated the engine and maintenance. RB swap would alleviate MANY issues I had with the car.

Yes, that would fix some engine bay issues. However, it doesn't make it any lighter :(

As much as the VG30DETT in that chassis is a pain to work on, I wonder if it is otherwise a better engine? http://www.motoiq.com/MagazineArticles/ID/4263/PageID/10661/5-Performance-Car-Engines-That-Suck.aspx

Its certainly a lot cheaper to start with.

Sky_Render
Sky_Render SuperDork
7/31/17 8:49 a.m.
Patrick wrote: You're not turning a 240sx into anything but an awd 240sx. I want a skyline because it's a skyline on the outside.

This. The "kit" turns a Silvia into an AWD Silvia. It's not a berkeleying Skyline.

This would be like saying that swapping an LS into an F-body Camaro "converts" it to a C6 Corvette. berkeley that noise.

Trackmouse
Trackmouse SuperDork
7/31/17 11:35 a.m.

In reply to Sky_Render:

I don't think the majority commenters here have understood something: it's not about the god damn looks. How many times can I say it- I want attesa-ets and a tire smoking rb26dett in a car that is road legal and easy to get body parts for, while not blowing a load of money for said skyline made of unobtanium body parts.

Knock the idea all you want folks, it's a good idea. There is nothing that a bnr32 chassis has that an rps13/4 chassis couldn't. Besides looking like a 16yr olds wet dream.

mad_machine
mad_machine MegaDork
7/31/17 11:42 a.m.

my question for you is. Without the computers to control said AWD, what good is it? The last few generation of Skyline had enough computer power to put the shuttle program to shame, just dropping in a front suspension with diff and the transmission to back it is not going to do a thing for gaining the finesse the Skyline is known for.

The rb26dett is a great engine, does it need AWD?

Trackmouse
Trackmouse SuperDork
7/31/17 1:24 p.m.

In reply to mad_machine:

Ya that bit I haven't worked out, but I assume there is some magic haltech computer that does it all.

crankwalk
crankwalk Dork
7/31/17 1:39 p.m.
Trackmouse wrote: I don't think the majority commenters here have understood something: it's not about the god damn looks. How many times can I say it- I want attesa-ets and a tire smoking rb26dett in a car that is road legal and easy to get body parts for, while not blowing a load of money for said skyline made of unobtanium body parts.
Trackmouse wrote: In reply to mad_machine: Ya that bit I haven't worked out, but I assume there is some magic haltech computer that does it all.

You are worried about the cost of potentially replacing expensive body panels from a Skyline but not worried about spending more money than that to get a Haltech to control the driveline, buying a 15 year Full Race kit that was kind of made as a novelty and is still $8k, countless man hours to put it all together....

Perspective- I've had fast s13s , s14s, and an R32. I could afford them all but I likely couldn't afford making what you're proposing by piecemealing the whole car together. The sum of the parts is WAY more than buying a road ready legal R32 even in the high $20k's.

Honestly, Nissan did the hard work for you if you are deadset about RB26 power and AWD. Make an excel spreadsheet and compare all the conversion stuff and the cheapest registered R32 GTR you can find.

Trackmouse
Trackmouse SuperDork
7/31/17 2:27 p.m.

In reply to crankwalk:

Sounds good to me. Thanks for the advice

mfennell
mfennell Reader
7/31/17 2:47 p.m.
crankwalk wrote: Perspective- I've had fast s13s , s14s, and an R32. I could afford them all but I likely couldn't afford making what you're proposing by piecemealing the whole car together. The sum of the parts is WAY more than buying a road ready legal R32 even in the high $20k's.

FWIW, my buddy just picked up a mint '89 R32 w/31k miles on it. Car is in amazing condition and 99% stock (I think cat back and coil packs are the only non-OEM parts). We had beer & pizza at his house last night and 5 obsessive car nuts could not find a thing wrong with it. $25k.

I'd never been in one. Car is pretty awesome.

Sky_Render
Sky_Render SuperDork
7/31/17 3:19 p.m.
Trackmouse wrote: In reply to Sky_Render: I don't think the majority commenters here have understood something: it's not about the god damn looks. How many times can I say it- I want attesa-ets and a tire smoking rb26dett in a car that is road legal and easy to get body parts for, while not blowing a load of money for said skyline made of unobtanium body parts. Knock the idea all you want folks, it's a good idea. There is nothing that a bnr32 chassis has that an rps13/4 chassis couldn't. Besides looking like a 16yr olds wet dream.

Part of the allure of the Skyline is the chassis itself and it's looks.

nutherjrfan
nutherjrfan Dork
7/31/17 5:00 p.m.

In reply to Trackmouse: Oh I'm all for it as a Nissan home-boy should be. Anyone want to trade for a restoration project 02 SVT to get me started?

crankwalk
crankwalk Dork
7/31/17 5:44 p.m.
mfennell wrote:
crankwalk wrote: Perspective- I've had fast s13s , s14s, and an R32. I could afford them all but I likely couldn't afford making what you're proposing by piecemealing the whole car together. The sum of the parts is WAY more than buying a road ready legal R32 even in the high $20k's.
FWIW, my buddy just picked up a mint '89 R32 w/31k miles on it. Car is in amazing condition and 99% stock (I think cat back and coil packs are the only non-OEM parts). We had beer & pizza at his house last night and 5 obsessive car nuts could not find a thing wrong with it. $25k. I'd never been in one. Car is pretty awesome.

And that's perfect. My Skyline's would crap COP's nonstop so aftermarket is a huge upgrade. When it starts running on 5 and sounding like a Subaru, you know it's time to start unplugging them one by one.

And yeah $25-30k seem to be the going rate these days and that is still a bargain in my opinion. I paid considerable less but this was in 2008, still wasn't fully legal (Registered as a diesel in GA so no emissions or nobody to check anyway....). I got pulled over in it once and still have no issues however if they wanted to be a jerk, they could have.

The fact that you can own a mint condition dream car (if it's your dream car) for $25k with all the hardwork taken care of you and fully legalized is a steal.

4cylndrfury
4cylndrfury MegaDork
8/1/17 8:35 a.m.
crankwalk wrote: The fact that you can own a mint condition dream car (if it's your dream car) for $25k with all the hardwork taken care of you and fully legalized is a steal.

Having never looked under the skirt, I'm curious: How hard would it be to put the steering and pedals on the other side of the interior? I know its petty, but being on the other side of the car bothers me, enough that it would strike the legendary R32 off my list of wants. I understand that everyone says you get used to it, and that after a while, you don't even notice. But, I am certain that I would.

I have to imagine that where there's a welder, there's a way. Is there room on the (US) drivers side of the motor to get a steering column in there? Will a compatible steering rack fit?

4cylndrfury
4cylndrfury MegaDork
8/1/17 8:43 a.m.

But, they are dead sexy

From my drive home last summer. That Dodge nearly caused a pileup while gawking

crankwalk
crankwalk Dork
8/1/17 12:38 p.m.
4cylndrfury wrote:
crankwalk wrote: The fact that you can own a mint condition dream car (if it's your dream car) for $25k with all the hardwork taken care of you and fully legalized is a steal.
Having never looked under the skirt, I'm curious: How hard would it be to put the steering and pedals on the other side of the interior? I know its petty, but being on the other side of the car bothers me, enough that it would strike the legendary R32 off my list of wants. I understand that everyone says you get used to it, and that after a while, you don't even notice. But, I am certain that I would. I have to imagine that where there's a welder, there's a way. Is there room on the (US) drivers side of the motor to get a steering column in there? Will a compatible steering rack fit?

You could fabricate any of the metal, firewall for the master cylinders, convert the steering components but what are you going to do about not having a dashboard? You've already paid $25,000 dollars for a car and now you've cut up the interior?

Luckily, yet again, there is a solution and Nissan made it. Look for LHD skylines to import from UAE orsome other Euro LHD countries. You're going to pay way more for them since the people that import them deal primarily with Asian countries (mainly Japan).

Driving on the right side of the car is really no big deal. SO many people, including smart car people would ask me what it was like shifting the wrong way. Not just with my left hand but they actually thought the shift pattern was mirrored. That's.....not how that works. Ha!

You get used to it in literally 5 minutes.

Sky_Render
Sky_Render SuperDork
8/1/17 2:07 p.m.

I don't know if I'm coordinated enough to shift with my left hand!

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
8/1/17 2:36 p.m.
4cylndrfury wrote: But, they are dead sexy From my drive home last summer. That Dodge nearly caused a pileup while driving on the shoulder at speed.
4cylndrfury
4cylndrfury MegaDork
8/1/17 3:31 p.m.

In reply to Appleseed:

Note the white smoke. Thats 4 wheel lockup in a full sized truck from not noticing traffic at a stop because youre gawking at a JDM monster. SWMBO was not amused

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